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Re: Mullvad VPN: Banned TV Ad in the Streets of London [video]

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> still allow That's the thing: the idea that one must be allowed . No; you publish it, and the most the government can do is stop you from repeating it and punish you for having done so. Note that I'm not defending the US system as perfect, or even necessarily good in all places and at all times. But it is a system that has benefits.

> No; you publish it, and the most the government can do is stop you from repeating it and punish you for having done so. Soooo.... if I approach a US tv network with an ad that explicitly shows naked people doing cocaine, and carries the message that drugs are amazing, and ask for it to be scheduled during the kids tv peak slot, the networks are going to say "Hey, cool, yeah we'll do that"? This seems very unlikely…

“You publish it” means you - not someone else. You can write your cocaine-is-great pamphlet and give it out. That’s it. Nobody has to agree to let you share your message on their platform.

But that is still missing the point. I said that the US way isn’t all downsides. Curiosly enough, I haven’t seen a reply (but I might miss some downstream) that acknowledges this. I’m not a moron. The US way isn’t the most perfect bestest ever with no faults. If you want to argue that there is nothing redeeming about the First Amendment, then do so. But unless you are prepared to do that, don’t act like it has no benefits.

Re: Mullvad VPN: Banned TV Ad in the Streets of London [video]

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Free speech does not exist in the UK or EU. At most there are vague free opinion laws with many grey areas that boil down to "keep them to yourself" if you like to keep your door hinged.

I'm sorry to say but that's ignorant bullshit. Freedom, not only of speech, but of expression and information, is enshrined in the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, the major legal document of the EU; whence I quote: Article 11 - Freedom of expression and information 1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas wi…

Those exceptions are so vague that you can interpret anything into them.

How "free" is your freedom of speech or expression if everything can be an exception?

Re: Mullvad VPN: Banned TV Ad in the Streets of London [video]

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post #181

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> They can absolutely parse things and follow me across IDs to put me in a big log So, VPNs do not protect against surveillance. Both of us agree. > some data magic The EU e-Evidence Regulation requires this of EU & EFTA based providers. Make what you will.

According to Mullvad they do not keep logs, so whatever data they can be compelled to give up should include very little.

That's not going to matter if the regulation, like the one linked to above, explicitly requires a proxy provider to preserve data.

Re: Mullvad VPN: Banned TV Ad in the Streets of London [video]

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post #177

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"that has any real effect". All the words I wrote were to be read

How do you want to be able to protest (for 'real effect') that is currently illegal?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/11/shabana-mah...

I don't support that organisation, but I support the right not to be banned from walking in protest, in a pre policing move.

You can bet the static protest people will be kettled too as a defensive measure. I don't support frightening makeshift imprisonment in the street.

I don't support the requirement to get permission from the police to walk in protest either

Tell me: how much change you think you can effect with a few people stood static, self policing your words as not to cause offence to anyone, and then likely kettled by the police? Tell me that isn't banning protest

You're basically permitted to stand silent with a totally inoffensive sign (offensive or potentially to absolutely nobody) in a very small group that attracts no attention

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