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Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by silisili »

hunter-gatherer wrote: post #86
silisili wrote: post #34

Not to intentionally sidetrack the conversation, but when did we start calling service members 'warfighters?' I've been seeing it a lot lately, but don't remember ever really seeing it before. Do members of the military prefer this title?

It isn't a new thing at all, and the term has been around for a while. I was an Infantryman from 05-08 and heard it back then. I have also more recently been a defense contractor. I don't think members of the military prefer any title, honestly. In the most broad sense, good terms are soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines. Defense Contractors constantly refer to the military as "warfighter" and have for a while. In shor…

Interesting, I guess I have less exposure not being in defense or military circles. Thank you for the level response.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by RalfWausE »

abtinf wrote: post #97
rorylawless wrote: post #16

Could this escalate to the point that Anthropic exits the US and sets up shop elsewhere? Or would the company cease to exist before it got to that point?

Every other country is significantly less free than the US. America is freedom's last stand.

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Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by egonschiele »

thirtygeo wrote: post #88
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #68

Anthropic is welcome to set up shop here in Canada! I hear Victoria BC is great. Absolutely brimming, overflowing with technology talent

Actually why is nobody in Cali just trying to join Canada - would be better for everyone in terms of more similar culture and values. Weird that it isn't discussed more

Someone has to stay to fight the shit happening in the US! The problem won't just go away if people move.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by lifeformed »

xXSLAYERXx wrote: post #127
fooster wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

early stage? shooting a woman in the face in her car for the crime of driving off by the brownshirts is not early stage my dude.

How long can we push this narrative? It was a terrible situation and I can't imagine the minutes of complete fear she must have felt. I pray for her family. But to then draw a conclusion to say this is evidence that we are in some sort of fascist decline, because of this incident, takes away from the innocent lose of life. And greatly exaggerates the skill and aptitude of the killer. People spew the fascist narrative…

It's not because of one incident. And the fascist part of these incidents isn't just the killing, it's the official response to it. They immediately claim the victims are terrorists and assassins and suppress investigation of it. Let's not pretend this is just some sad accident.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by nickthegreek »

post-it wrote: post #121
nickthegreek wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other companies have signed the waiver, however they aren’t being used in classified systems currently. So that type of use is already extremely limited for them. Now once they enter into those contracts to be used in those systems without these protections, I will cancel my subs to them and switch to Anthropic. xAi entered into that contract last week. Altman is now publicly siding with anthropic, so he better s…

We might not hear about any contracts that happen.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47189650

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by dralley »

arjie wrote: post #159
fladrif wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> political alignment I favour was as Big Tent as Donald Trump's administration is I'm not sure how accurate this sentiment is. Your desire is to embrace your enemy without resolving the differences, and get what you want. It's not clear here if you're advocating compromise and negotiation, or just embracing for the sake of embracing while just doing what you wanted all along. And evaluating Trump's actions against t…

I think the differences in this situation were that I do not want AI used in domestic surveillance or autonomous weapons, and Anthropic holds to that position. I think Donald Trump has pretty much let Zohran Mamdani operate without applying the kind of political pressure he has applied to other people, notably his predecessor Eric Adams. Also, I think saying "let people be your allies when they take your position" is…

You are making a mistake in thinking that Trump thinks of these things in political terms. Trump sees a charismatic and popular politician and he wants to associate with them on that basis alone, because Trump has a deep psychological need to be liked. Mamdani understands his psychology and is able to exploit it well by playing his own attributes to his advantage.

Politically, it's not like Trump tolerates dissent within the Republican party, he constantly threatens and berates anyone who shows defiance into submission. It's precisely because Mamdani is not in his tent and not really much of a threat to his power that he is willing to deal with him that way.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by eh-tk »

lebovic wrote: post #94

I used to work at Anthropic, and I wrote a comment on a thread earlier this week about Anthropic's first response and the RSP update [1][2]. I think many people on HN have a cynical reaction to Anthropic's actions due to of their own lived experiences with tech companies. Sometimes, that holds: my part of the company looked like Meta or Stripe, and it's hard not to regress to the mean as you scale. But not every patt…

I also think this will ultimately benefit anthropic in the long run. Outlined in this article: https://open.substack.com/pub/zeitgeistml/p/murder-is-coming...

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by margalabargala »

19123127 wrote: post #172
lebovic wrote: post #94

I used to work at Anthropic, and I wrote a comment on a thread earlier this week about Anthropic's first response and the RSP update [1][2]. I think many people on HN have a cynical reaction to Anthropic's actions due to of their own lived experiences with tech companies. Sometimes, that holds: my part of the company looked like Meta or Stripe, and it's hard not to regress to the mean as you scale. But not every patt…

Why did they work with Palantir then, which is the integrator in the DoD? It does not take a genius to figure out where this was going. I don't know why a personal testimony to the effect that "these are the good guys" needs to be at the top of every Anthropic thread. With respect to astroturfing and stealth marketing they are clearly the bad guys.

Anthropic's stance is "we believe in the use of our tools, with safeguards, to assist the defense of the US".

So of course they would work with Palantir to deploy those tools.

The issue we're seeing is because the DoW decided they no longer like the "with safeguards" part of the above and is trying to force Anthropic to remove them.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by arjie »

fladrif wrote: post #173
arjie wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the differences in this situation were that I do not want AI used in domestic surveillance or autonomous weapons, and Anthropic holds to that position. I think Donald Trump has pretty much let Zohran Mamdani operate without applying the kind of political pressure he has applied to other people, notably his predecessor Eric Adams. Also, I think saying "let people be your allies when they take your position" is…

I don't understand, your position is the same as Anthropic, yet you disagree with their stance? And I wouldn't take the case of Trump and Mamdani as the exemplar of Trump's overall behavior towards opponents. The amount of evidence to the contrary is overwhelming.

Anthropic's adherence to their stated principles was never tested and their willingness to work with DoD made it seem like they didn't stand by them strongly so I wasn't happy with that. This action shows that they are willing to lose big contracts in order to stand by their stated principles. I like that.

In any case, I think I've said all there is for me to say on the subject and everyone seems to disagree. I'll take the hint.

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