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A simple web we own

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Re: A simple web we own

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> I publish this site via GitHub Pages service for public Internet access A whole post about not needing big corporations to publish things online, and then they use Microsoft to publish this thing online...

There's a whole meme subgenre dedicated to this type of argument. Search for "Yet you participate in society, curious!"

Except it's completely different.

You cannot "not participate in society" in a meaningful way. But you can self-host a blog. Especially for someone tech-savvy enough to talk about web technology.

Re: A simple web we own

#193
post #184

My concern is that when we succeed making "our own web" popular, the Big Cos will lobby for legislation that would put burden on all operators, such that it would be unreasonably costly for small operators but easy for themselves to meet. Probably under disguise of "think of the children". Besides technology we'd need a strong organization advocating for "our own web".

That is already happening, but this is where peer-to-peer becomes helpful, because in order for 'Big Cos' and 'Big Gub' to audit your web they have to have visibility into it in the first place.

Re: A simple web we own

#194
post #154

Publishing markup content is not the problem world needs solving. Infact there is no problem with web that applies to all users of the web. Most are just consumers of the content. Mostly non-text content. I guess the author first need to get some stats on content type, use cases, money flows, controls etc and then define the problem that applies to most users of the web. Keep in mind that, usually a system that evolv…

My impression is that the author is not actually speaking to the internet at large, they're just talking to people who are 1) at least a little tech-savvy, and 2) willing to spend time to decouple from big tech. This is just the author building a personal data/ blog tool for their own use, to feel 'safe'. That's why they liken it to their home.

This is not a real roadmap (or even completed thought) for people shifting to micro-enclave internet/ networks. That is already happening in many places, and has been for years, often driven by lack of internet infra rollout in low-income areas. It used to be community-installed wiring, but the advent of mesh networking has allowed this to blow up.

Re: A simple web we own

#195

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I think some of those barriers are going away ( in the UK it's now possible to get symmetric full fibre at a reasonable price ), static IPs, ISP's without filtering etc. I think the main barrier is still the complexity of running your own service - it's a full time job to keep on top of the bad actors. For example, if you have your own domain it's perfectly possible to run your own email server - however it's quite a…

> however it's quite a lot of ongoing effort - it's not just set up and forget. I have seen those kinds of opinions on internet already few times. No it is not that complicated. Yes you need to buy server. Yes you need to setup the DNS. Yes you need to maintain, and update server and its software. But this is like that with everything you selfhost. Beside that you need mostly 1 time operations like: - setup domain en…

If you are running spam filters then don't they need constant attention?

Dont you need to keep on top of DMARC reports?

eg https://www.duocircle.com/dmarc/how-to-fix-spf-records-by-an...

Re: A simple web we own

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> In short: there's no hope of getting a world-wide, free, uncensored, unlimited IP4/6 network back. We never had it in the first place. We can build such a society. I am not sure why you think this is never possible. People can work for a better world. That sometimes works, too.

who pays for it then?

The ISPs are a natural monopoly, or oligopoly at least, because it's expensive to lay cable for each home. Their business is quite profitable even when they don't get to control their customers traffic.

Re: A simple web we own

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> however it's quite a lot of ongoing effort - it's not just set up and forget. I have seen those kinds of opinions on internet already few times. No it is not that complicated. Yes you need to buy server. Yes you need to setup the DNS. Yes you need to maintain, and update server and its software. But this is like that with everything you selfhost. Beside that you need mostly 1 time operations like: - setup domain en…

If you are running spam filters then don't they need constant attention? Dont you need to keep on top of DMARC reports? eg https://www.duocircle.com/dmarc/how-to-fix-spf-records-by-an...

I am not sure about other mailsevers but with Mailcow I occasionally (once per week maybe) get spam notification (release/delete call to action) that I just click and that is all. I have DMARC reports coming in but as far as I remember they are about my own server outgoing emails. So no, I do not think so.

As for my own emails they were rejected maybe by just few times. But I do not use email much - just some personal communication. I am not running marketing campaigns that places my IP on some blacklist.

I think I just one time was on one of spam lists. I just emailed them or applied for removal via some webform and they removed the entry pretty much instantly. I do not remember other problems.

Re: A simple web we own

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> however it's quite a lot of ongoing effort - it's not just set up and forget. I have seen those kinds of opinions on internet already few times. No it is not that complicated. Yes you need to buy server. Yes you need to setup the DNS. Yes you need to maintain, and update server and its software. But this is like that with everything you selfhost. Beside that you need mostly 1 time operations like: - setup domain en…

If you are running spam filters then don't they need constant attention? Dont you need to keep on top of DMARC reports? eg https://www.duocircle.com/dmarc/how-to-fix-spf-records-by-an...

As far as I understand this article it talks about different IPs in SPF. This is just one machine with one IP. I do not send big quantities of emails from other servers. And even if I would need to I would just create mail box and send emails via that mailbox.

Re: A simple web we own

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I remember a web when practically every ISP allowed you to have a "home page" hosted with them. Your home page was situated in the "public_html" directory of your home directory on their server — hence the name. Then the URL was http://www. /~ I haven't see an URL with a tilde ('~') in it in a long time. Why did ISPs stop with this service? Was it to curb illegal file sharing?

When this was a thing that people used, there were tons of free services (in the style of geocities) that offered the same basic functionality (often with a paid tier that was a bit more functional).

They gave you a sub url, like mypage.hostingsite.com and ftp access where you could upload like 50mb of data.

I remember running my website in high school, and so did a ton of people, a significant number of whom I wouldn't describe as particularly technical.

I think my ISP offered a similar service but it was both less generous and much harder to use. I don't think a lot of people of people used those.

If you needed/wanted more, you could use your old crappy PC to host a webserver - just install a LAMP stack, phone your ISP to give you a static IP, and buy a domain from your pocket money.

One of my friends used to run a somewhat popular PhpBB based Counter-Strike forum, and even caused some noteworthy drama online, when his parents unplugged the PC because they said it was using too much power , and the forum was down for like a week.

Re: A simple web we own

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> In short: there's no hope of getting a world-wide, free, uncensored, unlimited IP4/6 network back. We never had it in the first place. We can build such a society. I am not sure why you think this is never possible. People can work for a better world. That sometimes works, too.

Even in our fabulously wealthy societies, people are mostly worried about paying their bills, taking care of their families, and putting food on the table, not in getting together in a quixotic enterprise and paying for thousands of kilometers of communal fiber. Also like in most communist utopias what would probably happen is that the control infrastructure would be captured by special interest groups and now you’ve…

A government established by the people for the people is just such a sort of arrangement. Wishful thinking, but maybe someday...
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