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Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

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Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

#192

This is draconian. > Our investigation specifically confirmed that the use of your credentials within the third-party tool “open claw” for testing purposes constitutes a violation of the Google Terms of Service [1]. This is due to the use of Antigravity servers to power a non-Antigravity product. I must be transparent and inform you that, in accordance with Google’s policy, this situation falls under a zero tolerance…

I cannot de-Google fast enough. So if I ask Google's AI studio the wrong question, I might get my G-drive, Gmail, API access, Play store, YouTube channel, "login with Google" tokens, and more all ripped away instantly with no recourse? No thanks

It’s an extremely strong incentive to not use Gemini for anything serious

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

#193
Google, unlike all their competitors, actually give Cloud API credits to all paying users of AI Pro and AI Ultra [1] - just use those for direct Gemini/Vertex API access instead of trying to hack the OAuth of Google's apps.

[1] https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/technology/developers-...

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

#195

This is draconian. > Our investigation specifically confirmed that the use of your credentials within the third-party tool “open claw” for testing purposes constitutes a violation of the Google Terms of Service [1]. This is due to the use of Antigravity servers to power a non-Antigravity product. I must be transparent and inform you that, in accordance with Google’s policy, this situation falls under a zero tolerance…

It’s protectionism. These corporations are staying big because of anti competitive practices and capital. They don’t want to let go.

That’s called protecting a monopoly not protectionism

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

#196
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every subscription's profitability stands on people forgetting to unsubscribe, how is this surprising?

They're in the wrong business then. They're selling peak automation software, with the sales pitch of 'have AI do your work while you sleep'. Are they banning their core offering? Are Ralph' loops also banned for building software? Because I can drain my quota with a simple bash loop faster than any OpenClaw instance.

You most likely don’t pay per call for your cellphone.

You most likely don’t pay per machine to use the gym.

You don’t pay per cup if they allow unlimited refills.

You are not supposed to go into an all-you-can eat buffet and stuff steaks into your bag.

Sometimes not all of us want to do the math à la carte for every thing we use in life. Don’t ruin it for us.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

#197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's "tfa"?

You couldn't Google this? I mean, even ChatGPT is capable of doing that.

The irony is that web searches for an explanation of something often lead to a discussion thread where the poster is downvoted and berated for daring to ask people instead of Google. And then there's one commenter who actually actually explains the thing you were wondering about.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

#198

It should be obvious that these services are operating at a loss. The monthly subscriptions especially, but I’m even skeptical that the linear API pricing is sustainable. It feels like a classic “drug dealer” model to me. Get everyone hooked with cheap access, then raise prices later. Unless there’s a major breakthrough in the underlying technology, I don’t see how a significant price increase isn’t inevitable once a…

Did people learn nothing from the rise, stall, and now fall of social networks?

Yes, AI can do some incredible things. But we’re also running full speed into an ecosystem controlled by 2 or 3 major companies. Running at a loss. A reality check is coming.

It’s not a technology problem. It’s an economic problem. People are too busy looking at the tech to notice.

Re: Google restricting Google AI Pro/Ultra subscribers for using OpenClaw

#200

I'll admit to knowingly taking advantage of Google's pricing, but I had assumed it was within a gray area. No warning bans are insane.

Google has always done no warning bans

YouTube is also full of huge content creators, people who make Google tons of money, that complain about the Byzantine and opaque rules they have to dance around to maintain their livelihood and fan base

Google fears their giant userbases so they act with zero regard for communication and transparency because of the small chance it’d help the abusers

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