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Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

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Post by PurpleRamen »

yoavm wrote: post #78
cedws wrote: post #47

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Nice project. I think it would be worth mentioning the legal implications, it’s illegally sharing content right? Best to run behind a VPN or on a VPS in a country that won’t come after you.

I haven't heard about someone ever getting a letter for seeding books, but maybe I'm lucky. In any case, I'll add a notice to the README, thank you for the suggestion.

A decade ago, it happened regularly, but not sure if they are still doing this now. But the laws haven't changed much since then.

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

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Post by niij »

tmalsburg2 wrote: post #114
mckirk wrote: post #49

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This is only done at the DNS level, so using a different DNS (such as Quad9) solves that issue. For background info, I can recommend [1, 2]. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxmu25mUZgg [2]: https://cuiiliste.de/

If the censoring is at the DNS level, can the admin please replace the domain name in the url with the ip address to which it should resolve? Thank you.

Your country's broken internet is your problem. If you are having DNS queries censored then change your DNS resolver on your client side. If you still get intercepted look into DoH.

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

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Post by throw10920 »

yoavm wrote: post #33

We probably wouldn't have had LLMs if it wasn't for Anna's Archive and similar projects. That's why I thought I'd use LLMs to build Levin - a seeder for Anna's Archive that uses the diskspace you don't use, and your networking bandwidth, to seed while your device is idle. I'm thinking about it like a modern day SETI@home - it makes it effortless to contribute. Still a WIP, but it should be working well on Linux, Andr…

How does Levin "use the diskspace you don't use"? That sounds like a neat feature but I'm not aware of any APIs for that on desktop platforms.

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

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Post by streetfighter64 »

yoavm wrote: post #78
cedws wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice project. I think it would be worth mentioning the legal implications, it’s illegally sharing content right? Best to run behind a VPN or on a VPS in a country that won’t come after you.

I haven't heard about someone ever getting a letter for seeding books, but maybe I'm lucky. In any case, I'll add a notice to the README, thank you for the suggestion.

Well, there's a very famous story of one of the cofounders of reddit facing a million dollar fine and 35 years in prison for just downloading, not seeding, scientific articles. Not entirely the same, but quite related as his motivations were similar to those of Anna's Archive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Swartz

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

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Post by margalabargala »

SecretDreams wrote: post #172
yoavm wrote: post #166

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Assuming you are referring to non-books kind of content: I assume that if this happens to anyone, we'd learn about it and all stop seeding AA's content until they explain what happened and how they're making sure it doesn't happen again. The poor person this happened to will have to explain that this wasn't at all what they thought the software was doing. As I said in other comments - yes, this requires some kind of…

AA has plenty of illegal and gray content. It's not something laypeople should help to seed. You need to go in eyes wide open and protect yourself if you're participating, which I do not feel you are sufficiently emphasizing in this pitch.

Yeah it has a lot of content that violates copyright! That's illegal!

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

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Post by yoavm »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #181
yoavm wrote: post #152

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What do you have in mind?

Threads with context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45491679 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46637992 Elephant system design - https://gist.github.com/skorokithakis/68984ef699437c5129660d... (A distributed, voluntary backup system (high-level design document)) You're most of the way there with the distributed storage workers scheme u/stavros proposed ("Elephant") to increase Internet Archive item durabili…

I thought about offering alternative "torrents list", but didn't find any. Internet Archive would be a great one. I'm not sure about how ATProto works, but I made sure to enable WebTorrents so that it would be quite easy to download from Levin seeders using a browser only.

As for tipping - I really appreciate it, but there are really many people/projects that would need it much more than me.

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

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Post by mapkkk »

flancian wrote: post #182
yoavm wrote: post #33

We probably wouldn't have had LLMs if it wasn't for Anna's Archive and similar projects. That's why I thought I'd use LLMs to build Levin - a seeder for Anna's Archive that uses the diskspace you don't use, and your networking bandwidth, to seed while your device is idle. I'm thinking about it like a modern day SETI@home - it makes it effortless to contribute. Still a WIP, but it should be working well on Linux, Andr…

I'd like to buck the apparent trend of reacting to your project with shock and horror and instead say I believe it's a great idea, and I appreciate what you are doing! People have been trained to believe (very long) copyright terms are almost a natural law that can't be broken or challenged (if you are an individual; other rules might apply to corporations...) but I think we are better off continuing to challenge thi…

I would just like to add some cautionary anec-data: there are widespread cases in certain jurisdictions where rightsholders are known to seed the same torrents themselves, just to turn around and send love letters to leechers that connect to them. A good example is Germany with movies and TV shows.

Now, I don't know if, say, Wolters Kluver would/does the same thing, and what the realistic risk of an individual receiving such a letter is, but I think it makes it worthwhile to go over the actual law in your jurisdiction before diving head first on things like this.

I'm not saying it's wrong to seed these things, I'm just saying it might be a good idea to weigh the risks if you don't have a cool 500€ in cash to part ways with.

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

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Post by randallsquared »

streetfighter64 wrote: post #118
tom1337 wrote: post #116

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I'd say that it'd be your data but you might not be the copyright holder. But if the data is on a storage media that you own, I would consider it your data.

That's a very weird definition of "your data" that goes against e.g. the GDPR definition, etc.

If the GDPR is wrong, it's not the first time. See Lysenko.

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

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Post by hamdingers »

Maakuth wrote: post #46
yoavm wrote: post #33

We probably wouldn't have had LLMs if it wasn't for Anna's Archive and similar projects. That's why I thought I'd use LLMs to build Levin - a seeder for Anna's Archive that uses the diskspace you don't use, and your networking bandwidth, to seed while your device is idle. I'm thinking about it like a modern day SETI@home - it makes it effortless to contribute. Still a WIP, but it should be working well on Linux, Andr…

How is the anti-P2P enforcement these days? I think there are companies gathering bittorrent swarm data and selling it to lawyers interested in this sort of bullying. In Finland at least you can expect a mail from one of them if your IP address turns up in this data. However I think it is mostly focused on video and music piracy.

US colocated seedbox with ~10k film and tv torrents seeding at any given time, the last letter I got was ~2014 IIRC, before that it was several a year. I never responded to any of them.

I don't think I'm especially good at covering my tracks, so either they've abandoned individual enforcement in favor of going after distributors or they no longer bother with non-residential IPs.

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

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Post by randallsquared »

altmanaltman wrote: post #163
scotty79 wrote: post #70

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It is. They gathered it. They stored it. They served it. That's how data should work and eventually will.

what is this, data communism?

Rather the reverse, if you separate an instance from the type.
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