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I guess I kinda get why people hate AI
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Re: I guess I kinda get why people hate AI
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My experience has been a mixed bag. AI has led us into a deep spaghetti hole in one product where it was allowed free rein. But when applied to localised contexts. Sort of a class at a time it’s really excellent and productivity explodes. I mostly use it to type out implementations of individual methods after it has suggested interfaces that I modify by hand. Then it writes the tests for me too very quickly. As soon…
On localised context stuff, yeah no. I spent a couple of hours rewriting something Claude did terribly a couple of weeks back. Sure it solved the problem, a relatively simple regression analysis, but it was so slow that it crapped out under load. Cue emergency rewrite by hand. 20s latency down to 18ms. Yeah it was that bad.
For me it's just wildly unpredictable. Sometimes it gets a small task perfectly right in one shot, sometimes it invents an absurd new way to be completely wrong.
Anyone trusting it to just "do its own thing" is out if their mind
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I think no one cares about the truth or building something good any more. It's a meme economy. Tell a story and the numbers go up. Until they don't. Yes my pension is probably going down the same sinkhole with your IRA. Good luck. We need it.
Its always been like this but for awhile you had people like Steve Jobs to hold people like Bill Gates accountable. He long referred to MSFT as being mcdonalds in relation to the stuff they produced - very pedestrian.
Yep, all that accountability gates has faced in his life.
Is he facing charges yet for sneaking drugs into his wife's food, or did he only ever discuss that with his buddy Jeff E and never actually follow through with it
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If your expectations were low, anything would have been over your expectations. There was some improvement in terms of the ability of some models to understand and generate code. It's a bit more useful than it was 3 years ago. I still think that any claims that it can operate at a human level are complete bullshit. It can speed things up well in some contexts though.
> It's a bit more useful than it was 3 years ago. It's comments like these that make me not really want to interact with this topic anymore. There's no way that your comment can be taken seriously. It's 99.9% a troll comment, or simply delusional. 3 years ago the model (gpt3.5, the only one out there basically) was not able to output correct code at all. It looked like python if you squinted, but it made no sense. To…
/shrug
I have no intention of changing your mind. I don't think of the people I reply to highly enough to believe they can change their minds.
I reply to these comments for other people to read. Think of it as me adding ky point of view for neutral readers.
Either way, I could use AI for some coding tasks back in GPT 3.5 days. It was unreliable, but not completely useless (far from it in fact)
Nowadays it is a little more reliable, and it can do more complex coding tasks with less detailed prompts. AI now can handle a larger context, and the "thinking" steps it adds to itself while generating output were a nice trick to improve its capabilities.
While it makes me more productive on certain tasks, it is the sort of the improvements I expected in 3 years of it being a massive money black hole. Anything less would actually be embarrassing all things considered.
Perhaps if your job is just writing code day in an out you would find it more useful than I do? As a software engineer I do quite a bit more than that, even if coding is the bit of work I used to enjoy the most.
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It's not possible to tell if you're 10x faster, or even faster at all, over any non-trivial amount of time. When not using a coding agent, you make different decisions and get the task done differently, at a different level of architecture, with a different understanding of the code.
You don't think it's possible you'd notice if you, or the people around you, produced 6 months of work in 3 weeks? The case where it's not obvious is when the effect is <1.5x. I think that's clearly where we're at
I think it's a lot harder than it sounds. First, nobody can estimate time well enough to know how long something would have taken without AI. And then, it's comparing apples to oranges - there's the set of things people did using an AI agent, and the set of things they would have done if they hadn't used AI, and the two are just not directly comparable. The AI agent set would definitely have more lines of code, that's all I could really say. Maybe it would also contain a larger maintenance burden, lower useful knowledge in humans, projects that didn't need to be done or could have been done in a smarter way, etc.
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this feels like a comment out of 2023. Ever since reasoning models they have become much more than "probabilistic babble".
Hence why I mentioned a few tricks to cover the shit smell.
The U trap turned out to be a lot more useful than a "trick". It's one of two reasons we managed to get indoor plumbing (which is a pretty huge win for personal comfort IMO).
Re: I guess I kinda get why people hate AI
#197> ANd Matt Shumer is saying that AI is currently like Covid in January 2020—as in, “kind of under the radar, but about to kill millions of people”.
Odd typo + em dash = "Make mistakes in your output so that people think it wasn't AI generated"
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So, what I don't get is, taking it to its logical conclusion, if AI takes all the jobs then who are your customers? Who will buy your stock? Who will buy the software that all the developers you used to employ used to write? How do these CEOs and investors see this playing out?
You’re not supposed to ask such logical questions. It kills the AI vibe.
"We are asking you to pay the subscription, not to think! Think of the investors!"
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Anthropic has been the most histrionic about this, with their big blog post about how they need to make sure their models don't feel like they are being emotionally abused by the users being the most fatuous example.
I was taken aback when I recently noticed a co-worker thanking ChatGPT for its answer.
I occasionally say please and thank you to ChatGPT for my own sake, not for the LLM's. They're sufficiently similar to humans that allowing myself to be a jerk subtly degrades myself and makes it more likely that I'm a jerk to real people.