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Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Post by swed420 »

sph wrote: post #137
tokyobreakfast wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easy to be right when you live outside the boundaries of reality. E.g. he won't (didn't?) own a mobile phone, but is okay with borrowing someone else's. He won't use Wi-Fi where he has to log in but would happily borrow someone else's. It's not being right; it's shifting responsibility in exchange for his own personal convenience.

> It's easy to be right when you live outside the boundaries of reality. This does not make any sense at all.

It does if they're looking for any excuse to ignore something unpleasant, such as the cognitive dissonance of an internal moral failure.

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Post by malfist »

DrScientist wrote: post #170
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #164

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>The power of a few seconds of video is why TikTok had to be brought under control Didn't USA's current regime take over TikTok in order to use it for propaganda? Twitter-X was used so successfully that they're expanding their psyops.

All done in plain sight - because the people doing it are the good guys right? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3tdrO8bA7rs

You can trust billionaires, they always have your best interest in heart. After all, they're so wealthy they don't have to exploit you, unlike those grubby mom and pop operations that are desperate.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Post by crims0n »

ulrikrasmussen wrote: post #9

Good. But people should not have pointed cameras into public spaces and live streamed everything to the cloud to begin with. Walking past a house with a camera doorbell makes me really uncomfortable, like I'm being watched.

Agreed, I know it’s juvenile but ever time that stupid chime plays I just want to throw up a finger.

Re: Ring owners are returning their cameras

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Post by mosburger »

ChoGGi wrote: post #174
reaperducer wrote: post #163

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Will this prevent crime? Maybe No. Unless your camera is being held by a human being who can take action. Cameras do not prevent crime. That's just marketing. All they do is let people watch crimes after they've happened, and share the videos to spread fear to other people, which then sells more cameras. If doorbell cameras prevented crime, the internet would be full of videos of people trying to steal packages, then…

My garage was broken into twice within three years, cameras up two years ago, and nothing yet. I may also have a nice rock for sale, we'll see how it goes.

Yeah - I think it still a bit of a deterrent ... today, not everyone has a camera, and if I were a thief and one house had cameras while the place next door did not, guess which one I'm gonna rob?

But I wonder how much of that will wear off once everybody has one.

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Post by jkestner »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #152
serial_dev wrote: post #119

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There was an ad, how the Ring cameras can organize a "search party" for your "puppies", basically turning the whole neighborhood into a surveillance operation. Even though they wrapped the whole big brother feature into "sad little girl lost their cute puppy", it was too obvious. Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OheUzrXsKrY With that said, I'm not sure it will have any long term effect on them... sure some people…

Is this really political? While the right “Backs the Blue” (and ICE), they are just as concerned about the surveillance state as the left. Their threat model is just different as far as why. The right never trusted federal law enforcement.

At least for conservatives who still value those principles when their party is in office, true. Sedona’s successful anti-Flock effort was led by Trump voters.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/flock-haters-cro...

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Post by hi-jinx5678 »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #139
serial_dev wrote: post #119

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There was an ad, how the Ring cameras can organize a "search party" for your "puppies", basically turning the whole neighborhood into a surveillance operation. Even though they wrapped the whole big brother feature into "sad little girl lost their cute puppy", it was too obvious. Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OheUzrXsKrY With that said, I'm not sure it will have any long term effect on them... sure some people…

And, you know, if it was actually mobilized to find lost puppies, I'd be all for that shit. But that's not what it's for. It's for helping cops find poor people, or ICE find Mexicans, or whatever bullshit is making the headlines in 4 weeks. FWIW, I don't like being a tech downer/skeptic, but every fucking thing is like this now. Every social media is being turned into surveillance. Every cloud-based application, no m…

are the christofascists in the room with us? you don't think marxists use this technology for nefarious means? chinese social credit must be a myth.

the both sides thing is right, you dont remember the lockdowns over a cold, mandated behavioral changes, and countries sending people to "isolation camps" and pressing digital id?

yeah tho its just the "christofascists" huh?

you people only care when illegal invaders get targeted. your outrage is performative.

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Post by tialaramex »

dwedge wrote: post #132
ulrikrasmussen wrote: post #112

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Yes, it's the same in Denmark. And I unfortunately expect that the law will eventually be relaxed to allow it because it helps law enforcement. We have very little media coverage about the illegality of private people pointing cameras at public spaces, and the most frequent mentions of this is when the police use footage from such cameras to solve a crime. A couple of years ago there was a very high profile kidnappin…

That is a really confusing law. how can you share the recording with the police if you're not permitted to store the recording in the first place

Ordinarily the police investigating a major crime don't care whether you broke the law in small ways.

"Hmm, should we solve the murder, or, maybe get somebody fined $100 for having an unauthorised video" ?

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Post by manuelabeledo »

swed420 wrote: post #183
philipallstar wrote: post #171

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Facebook alone is far more mainstream than Reddit, I would say. Thousands of times more.

Maybe ten years ago, but that's a huge exaggeration today.

It’s not. Just think of anyone 60 and over, or anyone not in the US.

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Post by Sol- »

nindalf wrote: post #155

This news article boils down to "a few people on reddit did something", which is interesting. But we know reddit and HN are definitely not mainstream. Is this hurting Amazon? No, it is not. As long as they're honouring return requests freely, you know that the number of returns is within their accepted levels of distressed inventory. If it's getting into uncomfortable territory, they'll start rate limiting people by…

That was my immediate reaction as well. These things are never more than a storm in a teapot.
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