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Re: Microsoft open-sources LiteBox, a security-focused library OS

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The response appears to be pointing out that with so many employees (engineers), it's unlikely that they all work on Windows.

Don’t the best of the best typically work on OS fundamentals though?

The windows kernel is great. It's the stuff built on top of that that sucks. I doubt MS puts the best of the best on coding the start menu

Re: Microsoft open-sources LiteBox, a security-focused library OS

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NTFS, not so great.

NTFS is just fine. Stable, reliable, fast, plenty of features for a general purpose file system.

NTFS is infamous for being super slow. Even using EXT4 through WSL is faster.

Re: Microsoft open-sources LiteBox, a security-focused library OS

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With how buggy their flagship OS has become, why would I trust anything else they release to be better? Or even if it does work well now, why should I expect it to stay that way? Microsoft has burned through all possible goodwill at this point, at least for me.

I know windows 11 is super buggy and riddled with issues (and the copilot mess), but I'm starting to feel there's a weird echo chamber around these forums that don't even bother looking at what the product or repository is, and automatically assume it's bad 'cause it's from Microsoft.

Once the amount of bad software coming out of a shop rises over 50% this becomes a sane assumption, since it is more likely than not, that it is trash coming out of that shop. So in case of MS it does seem a reasonable assumption to make.

Re: Microsoft open-sources LiteBox, a security-focused library OS

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Aliens come to visit. I have to tell one the difference between an app linked against a "library os" running on a hypervisor, and an app running on a kernel. I couldn't do it with a straight face.

A proper library OS doesn't have syscalls. Everything operates in the same space, no user/kernel split.

Re: Microsoft open-sources LiteBox, a security-focused library OS

#195

With how buggy their flagship OS has become, why would I trust anything else they release to be better? Or even if it does work well now, why should I expect it to stay that way? Microsoft has burned through all possible goodwill at this point, at least for me.

I know windows 11 is super buggy and riddled with issues (and the copilot mess), but I'm starting to feel there's a weird echo chamber around these forums that don't even bother looking at what the product or repository is, and automatically assume it's bad 'cause it's from Microsoft.

I use Windows 11 all day and can't agree it's buggy at all, compared to Windows of the past it's very reliable. The worst I can say is they've made some poor decisions about the defaults around ads in the UI. But all of that is easy to turn off.

Re: Microsoft open-sources LiteBox, a security-focused library OS

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What a ridiculous excuse. People who join ICE to brutalize minorities and protestors are just trying to feed their families too, then. No? Working for Microsoft doesn’t make them bad engineers or bad people, but it does make them Microsoft employees. And they get to bear its reputation whether they want to or not. If it makes them uncomfortable then they should make a change or grow thicker skin. Oversaturation of th…

> People who join ICE to brutalize minorities and protestors are just trying to feed their families too, then. 1400 ISIS (the islamist state) terrorists who made their way to the US, identified by the DHS. https://www.dhs.gov/wow Look at the list here. 2084 pages already, 12 entries per page: that's 25 000 criminals. They're listing their crimes. 25 000 criminals already arrested is a huge lot. Be honest with yoursel…

Well considering the administration has repeatedly called Alex Pretti and Renee Nicole Good "TERRORISTS", I would consider "1400 ISIS terrorists" a highly dubious statistic, in fact in a brief search for a reputable source of your claim of "1400 ISIS terrorists" I've not found any source for that, link???

You ask "Is, say, 1 in 100 people coming in being a criminal OK?"

Well considering that about 1.4% of the overall population is current incarcerated in our "Land of the Free", yeah 1 in 100 would be an improvement!

People are against ICE in growing numbers because of their tactics of run around hide their identities like bandits and gestapo thugs. Their ignoring of court orders, constant lies, constant blatant violations of the 1st, 2nd, 4th amendments constantly, and violations of rights of people such as immigrants following the processes of asylum, several citizens that have been arrested wrongly, and the terrible tortuous treatment an the joy and pride this corrupt disgusting administration takes in being cruel to people!

Re: Microsoft open-sources LiteBox, a security-focused library OS

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> People who join ICE to brutalize minorities and protestors are just trying to feed their families too, then. 1400 ISIS (the islamist state) terrorists who made their way to the US, identified by the DHS. https://www.dhs.gov/wow Look at the list here. 2084 pages already, 12 entries per page: that's 25 000 criminals. They're listing their crimes. 25 000 criminals already arrested is a huge lot. Be honest with yoursel…

> Are you that convinced, from your moral high ground where you judge Microsoft employees and ICE agents, that you'll be on the right side of history? Yes. It really isn't difficult to figure out who the bad guys are, at the moment.

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Re: Microsoft open-sources LiteBox, a security-focused library OS

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> People who join ICE to brutalize minorities and protestors are just trying to feed their families too, then. 1400 ISIS (the islamist state) terrorists who made their way to the US, identified by the DHS. https://www.dhs.gov/wow Look at the list here. 2084 pages already, 12 entries per page: that's 25 000 criminals. They're listing their crimes. 25 000 criminals already arrested is a huge lot. Be honest with yoursel…

You are missing out the entire point. In a justice system, a single innocent in prison is a thousand times worse than a free criminal. This is where most people draw the line if they think about it. Because when you put innocents under arrest, suddenly you are no better than dictatorships and terrorist state. The real justice is investing in a security system that tracks, investigates, and condemn actual criminals, i…

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Re: Microsoft open-sources LiteBox, a security-focused library OS

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The criticism was directed at the company's product, not the employees...

I always wish that people would make this distinction more often ... the people=good, the product=bad ... people!=bad

If product->quality_x, I'm okay with employee->?quality_x — but not with either employee->quality_x or employer->!quality_x. A better thing to remember is that people have themselves to feed. Of those 100k engineers, how many can say "no, you don't, Satya, ain't no besmirching my code with slop"?

Re: Microsoft open-sources LiteBox, a security-focused library OS

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If anything, Microsoft has a lot of problems because they support a wide variety of crappy hardware and allow just about anyone to write kernel level sw (drivers). Not sure if this changed, but they used to run in the ring0 even. This was most evident back in the 90s when they shipped NT4: extremely stable as opposed to Win95 which introduced the infamous BSOD. But it supported everything, and NT4 had HW support on p…

NT4 started with a kernel mode, user mode, security model and drivers had to be written and validated accordingly. 9x, me, and even compatibility parts of XP (up to some service patch IIRC? Might have been SP2) would still allow dos mode realtime BS for any driver that wanted. I loath all the dang software modems too cheep to ship a decent device in a single unit and instead slice off the user's already constrained r…

Heh, who else remembers the golden benchmark, a US Robotics 56k hw modem (the only one I could find locally was an external one too) to get online in either NT4 or Linux. But when I finally did save for one, I could fully leave Windows behind in 1998.
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