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Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by xethos »

zthrowaway wrote: post #37

I can’t believe I’m going to type this, but I miss the Ballmer days. Current leadership has somehow made this company even worse.

Ballmer was kinda the best Microsoft CEO for Windows, IMO. He didn't get the Justice department's attention in either the states or Europe, and he started building alternate revenue streams (XBOX, Windows Phone) without destroying the core product. Sure, MetroUI had no place in Server2012, but that was less egregious than the AI-everything and multiple settings menus

Nadella is a marvelous Microsoft CEO for Linux though. Credit where it's due

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by joe_mamba »

evilduck wrote: post #177
joe_mamba wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Ever since they got the delicious taste of white-labelling chromium instead of fixing ie What exactly was wrong with Edge Legacy(not IE) based on their own engine that they need to fix, and why was Chromium a sweet taste? AFAIk Edge Legacy was kicking ass in all benchmarks. Their only achilles heel was Google messing up Youtube and G-apps to break they way they got displayed on Edge LEgacy forcing users to switch to…

What was wrong is that they had to foot the bill. Now Google does the hard and expensive part for them.

I meant what was wrong from the user's perspective who complained. Not from MS's perspective.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by stackghost »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #174
pixelpoet wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Office brand is literally gone, they renamed it to "Microsoft Copilot 365 app". Check https://office.com

That is insane. Microsoft Office is probably one of the most recognizable brand names ever. Reminds me of the time when they called everything .NET.

Literally nobody on the planet is worse at naming things than Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by JeremyNT »

OsamaJaber wrote: post #5

The real issue was never AI in Windows It was AI with no clear user benefit. A Copilot button in Notepad doesn't solve a problem anyone has Good to see them pulling back, but the test will be whether the features they keep actually earn their place in the workflow instead of just being there because someone had a KPI to hit

They jumped the gun really.

The way the code assistants like opencode / claude / etc are improving with good models, I could easily see some kind of Copilot-like utility driving the whole OS in a pretty useful way to automate all kinds of tasks, just... not today.

Just like Google shoving the shittiest version of gemini into search results, Microsoft is shoving mostly useless half-baked AI features into Windows. There must be some kind of insane culture of just wanting to ship before it's done and assuming users won't notice it's crap, rather than waiting for a truly good experience.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by whynotmaybe »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #71
OsamaJaber wrote: post #5

The real issue was never AI in Windows It was AI with no clear user benefit. A Copilot button in Notepad doesn't solve a problem anyone has Good to see them pulling back, but the test will be whether the features they keep actually earn their place in the workflow instead of just being there because someone had a KPI to hit

Notepad had been perfect for 20 years. Morons fucked with it.

I used notepad for quick edit of simple files OR copy pasting and removing formatting.

Copilot excluded, who decided that it was a good idea to have multi tab notepad that remembers unsaved files between executions ?

"We solved that, just go into settings to toggle that behaviour !"

Who decided that notepad had to have a full settings page ?

"Just use the feedback hub" ?

So basically, you removed Wordpad and now regret this decision and are slowly turning notepad into Jeff Raskins' Archy ?

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

jpmattia wrote: post #184

Great. Let us hope that support for hardware without TPM is next. Creating several mountains worth of electronic waste was a terrible decision. And in the middle of the AI-induced memory shortage! Although I have to admit: The combination of AI and required new hardware has been a nice boost for switching to Linux.

Motherboards have had TPM support (built-in/exteral) since like 2017. Are there a bunch of models that don't support a plug-in TPM? I guess the BIOS would probably be the next issue.

Re: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

pixelpoet wrote: post #17
Shank wrote: post #2

> It appears this moment of pushback has resonated with internal teams: According to people familiar with Microsoft’s plans, the company is now reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11 and plans changes to streamline or even remove certain AI features where they don’t make sense. Obviously this is a complete failure of governance. The very first thing they should have considered was whether or not these features ma…

> The question Microsoft should ask themselves is why they built them in the first place It seems like everyone except MS themselves knows why: they got tunnel vision from Azure and AI, and completely forgot about what actually made them successful. Hell they even burnt down one of the most famous brands in the world, MS Office, for zero reason other than to try and whitewash their Copilot name. The marketing guys wh…

> burnt down one of the most famous brands in the world, MS Office, for zero reason other than to try and whitewash their Copilot name

Mac user and Office subscriber here. The wild thing is this soured me on the Copilot brand so broadly that I’ve recommended folks weighing it strongly avoid committing to it as their AI strategy. (None of them did.)

That infamous agentic OS tweet pretty much sums up the incentives and response to criticism at Redmond.

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