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Re: I stopped following the news

#191
post #9

I completely understand why, but on the other hand democracy relies on citizens being informed about what's happening. The risk is that one day, you wake up and there is no democracy any more.

I completely agree. The author is incredibly naive on the "I asked myself how much of this actually affects my daily life". If there's one thing that absolutely affects your life, it's politics. Maybe not today, and maybe not immediately in a meaningful way, but it will affect you.

Re: I stopped following the news

#192

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They may be aware of it, but others who frequent this particular forum may have HN as THEIR source. When someone like the above commenter tries to gatekeep areas where discussion, particularly of things like fascism or other forms of oppression, takes place, it only serves and furthers the goals of the oppressor. There is no domain of life which is not intrinsically political. When we act like there is -- such as whe…

Do you also believe you should discuss every other topic under the sun in the belief that not discussing it is "ceding ground" to a viewpoint or action of others? It would seem that in your view, we should be discussing all things at all times due to this "oppressor" mindset. This simply cannot be true.

You're clearly being facetious. I will simply say that the rise of Naziism/Authoritarianism in the west is a preeminent threat to all human beings on the planet, especially when the king of all nazis has access to the nuclear missiles. It obviously demands a sense of urgency that other topics don't.

If you disagree with that, be explicit about exactly what part.

Re: I stopped following the news

#193

YouTube is the new news and TV replacement altogether. It is not hard to filter out AI slop, stick with channels known for being true and unbiased, specially stick with independent journalists channel and known podcast. Everything else is a lost cause, main stream media?? Suuuuuure Social media, the more time spent at it, the more depressed and brain washed you get, just bad news after bad news. Ditch those and follo…

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Re: I stopped following the news

#194

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I wonder what one agenda in posting that right now would be, ehh? And to think Americans used to take pride in being nation of freedom.

To be fair, not everything is someone's agenda. Indifference, ignorance and stupidity exist by their own. But hostile forces do like to multiply them. You may not follow the news right until they start knocking on your door, or just obliterate your house in a rocket strike.

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Re: I stopped following the news

#195
post #187

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> Nuance/dissent wasn't even vaguely on the cards. Not all topics are nuanced when discussed by an educated, well-intended audience. Is the world flat? Does evolution lead to speciation? Dissent is for the sake of dissent, and nothing else.

I've largely stopped commenting here because I feel the community is broken. There's definitely truth to what you say, that an educated audience can have a consensus. But one thing makes the HN community (and many Reddit communities) particularly bad: A lot of these threads have repetitive comments with insults or silly name calling get upvoted. Even if consensus is around the earth being round, there's no need to pe…

Some topics can't be ignored. Vaccine effectiveness, for example, require a consensus from a large fraction of the population. That larger societal consensus begins with discussion in smaller subsets, of which HN is one.

Re: I stopped following the news

#196
post #37

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The fact that this is downvoted really says it all. "I don't read the news" is pretty much dependent on one's profession being insulated from changing events. Which is not surprising why it's a popular opinion amongst technocrats that would rather not have democracy in the first place.

Excerpt from link: For the rest of the news, I am considering subscribing to a magazine that covers important events in Germany, the EU, or the world every few months. This kind of format filters out short-term noise and fear-driven stories. Elections happen even less frequently than this. If your democracy disintegrates with less than a few months of warning, you were probably invaded and noticed even without the ne…

In October 2024 I would not have guessed that we'd ever see masked agents killing people on the streets of major US cities, or the US administration immediately accusing the victims of being armed terrorists. Things can change rapidly. By allowing things to get this bad, we have unfortunately forfeited our right to pretend things can't change rapidly. Let's plug in; fix this situation; and then folks can go back to ignoring the news.

Re: I stopped following the news

#197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They may be aware of it, but others who frequent this particular forum may have HN as THEIR source. When someone like the above commenter tries to gatekeep areas where discussion, particularly of things like fascism or other forms of oppression, takes place, it only serves and furthers the goals of the oppressor. There is no domain of life which is not intrinsically political. When we act like there is -- such as whe…

> There is no domain of life which is not intrinsically political. There are a great many such domains, and the insistence that everything is political is one of the chief problems with modern society. We can, and should, be able to enjoy some things together without bringing up bickering and strife. If you drag politics into a politics free zone you aren't taking responsibility for anything, you are just being a jer…

Whatever domain you think is apolitical is political because bad politics can happen anywhere and ruin the thing you love.

Get it? Bad people in power = you don't get to do the things you love, at some point.

Re: I stopped following the news

#198
post #4

I think it's important to keep reading the news occasionally. Personally, I, as a programmer, read the news in the same way as my grandad who was a farmer. I read a printed weekly publication (in my case The Economist) on Sunday morning. Outside of Sunday morning I don't read the news at all. I prefer printed news to media-supported news, because I think the imagery (I acknowledge The Economist still has images) and…

I think it's hard to claim you're not getting news other than on Sunday in print, if your posting to HN mid-week.

Re: I stopped following the news

#199
post #18

I’ve had similar experiences. These days I only visit Hacker News to read some tech-related stuff. For me, not reading the news to the point where I ask my mom to turn off the TV when I visit is important, because I want to avoid hearing anything about wars, etc. As someone who lives in Poland, I followed so much news about the war in Ukraine in 2022 and 2023, and it was really bad for my well-being and my behavior.…

When the world is on fire and people are suffering, we have a moral obligation to be aware of it and take part in the healing. To turn off your access to the media is a temporary solution that may well be justified in the short term, but you do not have the luxury of forgoing your part in this world, because if you do, it will burn all the way to your doorstep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXgWZyb_HgE

> When the world is on fire and people are suffering

The problem is that the world is always on fire and people are always suffering.

Especially so because now we hear about the whole world’s problems, and no matter how peaceful a state the world is in there’s always a war or something happening somewhere. It’s been like that for all of human history and I don’t expect it to change any time soon.

I don’t think it’s healthy to live your whole live hearing about these problems that you have no ability to affect at all. In my experience it only has negative effects on your life and whether you’re tapped into the real time news feed or not, it doesn’t actually change these events in any way.

Re: I stopped following the news

#200
It's easy to ignore news of things happening far away and the luxury that comes with it. But when your people are the direct cause of the problems far away it's clear how such atrocities were allowed to happen in WW2. Blissful ignorance and silence.
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