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A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth

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Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth

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Post by _heimdall »

Philip-J-Fry wrote: post #147

This feels like something Apple should do with iPhones. Find My and air tags was already a huge success because of the ubiquitous nature of iPhones. Apple could add this to iPhone, sell it as privacy focussed. Let you message anyone in your iMessage contacts with a new bubble colour. Propagate over Bluetooth when you don't have internet. I can see a snazzy Apple reveal for this showcasing it's use on a cruise ship, i…

The US, and likely Chinese, government(s) have too much potential leverage over Apple. I wouldn't trust that Apple would do this securely, or that the government would allow them to release it.

Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth

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Post by hwillis »

Philip-J-Fry wrote: post #147

This feels like something Apple should do with iPhones. Find My and air tags was already a huge success because of the ubiquitous nature of iPhones. Apple could add this to iPhone, sell it as privacy focussed. Let you message anyone in your iMessage contacts with a new bubble colour. Propagate over Bluetooth when you don't have internet. I can see a snazzy Apple reveal for this showcasing it's use on a cruise ship, i…

Idk that there's much of a privacy sell vs. messages being encrypted. In the end users are just trusting Apple to actually be securing messages; they aren't going to love that they are trusting dozens of strangers instead of telecoms. Plus, police etc. already snoop on phones by spoofing cell tower relays anyway.

> Showcasing it's use on a cruise ship, in a packed stadium

Stadiums will still max out the pipe out of the local area, so I suspect it wouldn't help much. Festivals and cruise ships, where you want to reach people who are nearby (and at a festival, you might even have a good idea via gps which peers are better) are in desperate need of this and idk why apple didnt solve it years ago.

Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

niemandhier wrote: post #51
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> wish I had fuck-you money and could spend my day engrossed in whatever I find interesting A good mental exercise is to calculate how much you'd need to survive indefinitely in a pocket of rural America or the third world. No international travel. No bells and whistles. Limited cuisine. But survival and leisure unlimited. When I've run the numbers for a comforable living, they've come to $300k (Vietnam, $12k/y) to $…

Coll idea. One thing: This numbers exclude healthcare costs as you get older this gets more expensive. For countries with free healthcare, it is usually limited to people working there or citizens and ( in the German case ) recognised refugees.

> One thing: This numbers exclude healthcare costs as you get older this gets more expensive

For the U.S., yes, I'm assuming Medicare/Medicaid. For overseas: Vietnam and Portugal have affordable systems you can pay into, with private insurance options above that at $1,200 and $5,000 a year.

Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth

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Post by edent »

zikduruqe wrote: post #186
gloxkiqcza wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s no app for Apple platforms making it a lot less useful.

How about Berty? https://berty.tech/features

"Warning: the Android app (including apk) is currently unavailable for download and use due to an ongoing essential security update."

Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth

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Post by Kapura »

choosing to build an application on top of bluetooth is like saying, "we've constructed a highway over the most stable terrain known to man: volcanic marshes prone to seasonal flooding."

how do you know when the messaging app is broken, and how do you know when bluetooth is just exercising its ability to hate mankind?

Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

cedws wrote: post #62
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> wish I had fuck-you money and could spend my day engrossed in whatever I find interesting A good mental exercise is to calculate how much you'd need to survive indefinitely in a pocket of rural America or the third world. No international travel. No bells and whistles. Limited cuisine. But survival and leisure unlimited. When I've run the numbers for a comforable living, they've come to $300k (Vietnam, $12k/y) to $…

American software engineers maybe. But I heard somewhere that most Americans live paycheck to paycheck or at most have a few thousand dollars in savings.

> I heard somewhere that most Americans live paycheck to paycheck or at most have a few thousand dollars in savings

Wealth versus liquidity. I'm saying you sell everything you own, pay off your debts, and then take what's left to retire on. Someone with $10mm in home equity may still be strapped for cash on account of the mortgage.

Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth

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Post by coffeebeqn »

Kapura wrote: post #196

choosing to build an application on top of bluetooth is like saying, "we've constructed a highway over the most stable terrain known to man: volcanic marshes prone to seasonal flooding." how do you know when the messaging app is broken, and how do you know when bluetooth is just exercising its ability to hate mankind?

What else would they use? This is for when your government has turned off all sensible networks.

Re: A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth

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Post by twism »

curtisblaine wrote: post #163
consoleable wrote: post #119

Hopefully, the browser Bluetooth API will receive more support ( https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Web_Bluetoo... ). Web-based PWAs are more suitable because apps are subject to app store censorship.

Can PWAs run (and interact with Bluetooth) in the background? Edit: no they can't, so PWA would be not very useful at this.

Could still work in some cases where a certain amount of users are in and out of the website and in proximity e.g. protests
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