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SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by awakeasleep »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #124
csande17 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be deeply funny if SparkFun was referring to Adafruit forwarding inappropriate emails written by SparkFun employees to SparkFun, in an attempt to report their harassment.

That is exactly how I understand it at the moment. And depending on the material, it would be a somewhat valid complaint, if the report included the material without prior warning. Though, not valid enough to call CoC on this, IMHO.

It would only be at all valid if it was forwarded to employees who weren’t in a customer facing role.

Saying that you’re required to give a content warning to an account manager for material related to your business relationship puts the burden of responsibility onto the victim. Dealing with the psychological impact is the responsibility of their employer, not the customer.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by zxcvasd »

cjbgkagh wrote: post #178
zxcvasd wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

valuing style over substance is folly.

It is clearly a deliberate choice to send the signal of conforming to a particular type of non-conformance. It’s a costly signal because most people will see it as having the emotional maturity of a child, it signals to others that given their social status they can afford that self imposed handicap.

years and years and years of ptorrone's posts aren't capitalized, though. it's not like they suddenly decided today, for the purposes of this post, to change their writing style.

in any case, i prefer to decide whether someone has the "emotional maturity of a child" based on what they say, not whether they push their shift key.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by mindslight »

robotfelix wrote: post #116
b112 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did check on archive.org, and the code of conduct is there on March 2025. So they didn't just add it in the last month or so, and then send this notice.

From the Code of Conduct: > Unacceptable behaviors include but are not limited to: offensive comments, insults, jokes or ridicule; gratuitous or off-topic sexual images or behavior in spaces where they are nor other unappropriately aggressive behaviors; threats of violence or deliberate intimidation; creating additional online accounts in order to harass another person or circumvent a ban; harassment of any form. I c…

Just guessing it's to cover pictures of electronic projects involving body parts that are normally covered and/or risque attire?

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by 15155 »

MaKey wrote: post #83
swed420 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't be the first time CoC was used as a lame attempt to harm open source. Thanks for speaking up.

Overall I think Code of Conducts are a net negative. Alleged violations of them seem to be used to lend credibility to actions that otherwise would be hard(er) to justify.

They're a weapon of "social justice" - 90% of CoC rules are common-sense stuff that doesn't have to be said, combined with one or two "progressive" ideas shoehorned in.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by TehCorwiz »

buildbot wrote: post #163
RobotToaster wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This adds some more context I guess https://chaos.social/@North/115605819126197877 Honestly the whole thing seems like everyone overreacting on both sides. Accusing someone is "doxing" because they used your first name?

I believe they are claiming doxing based on connecting an email to a social media account.

Isn’t that a built in feature of most social media platforms?

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by chasd00 »

MaKey wrote: post #83
swed420 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't be the first time CoC was used as a lame attempt to harm open source. Thanks for speaking up.

Overall I think Code of Conducts are a net negative. Alleged violations of them seem to be used to lend credibility to actions that otherwise would be hard(er) to justify.

It just dawned on me that CoC docs are basically HR for open source. Point to a violation and voila, that person is gone. “Sorry, nothing personal, CoC violation, there’s nothing I can do”.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by axus »

ptorrone wrote: post #21

hi, phil here — post on adafruit here: https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/01/12/discontinuing-the-teens... i’ll stop back and answer anything (sparkfun will not?). sparkfun is the exclusive maker and distributor of the closed-source teensy and informed us we will not be able to purchase the teensy. this happened after i sent an email reporting the founder, nate, for multiple harassing actions directed at limor, including…

Links to "hate sites, photoshopped images, and harassment"?

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by SiempreViernes »

oytis wrote: post #160

Why there is often so much drama whenever something open source or community is involved? The best we've got from the industry so far was Astronomer affair.

It's just a selection effect, the culture of openness means you are much more likely to see the drama.

That said, why does the Musk vs. Zuckerberg cage fight beef not spring to mind? Or Musk beefing just about any random day anyway?

Not to mention the whole "OpenAI going full corpo" drama, that was arguably a much bigger deal, something actually important instead of this small social media debacle.

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