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Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by bawolff »

Nicook wrote: post #178
dgrin91 wrote: post #2

Seems like v4s zeroed out for a tiny bit too, but even now they are substantially lower than normal. Odd behavior, I don't know if its a precursor to an attack or some infra issue

Yeah I am suprised everyone thinks this is necessarily internal. Could equally be related to IL/USA incoming aggression. I'd at least keep an open mind for a while.

An attack would probably undermine the protests. From a strategy perspective, probably the last thing Israel/USA want to do is give the Iranian regime a common enemy to rally around in the midst of a protest that might plausibly over throw the Iranian regime.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by syncsynchalt »

helloaltalt wrote: post #76
burkaman wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are ~100,000 users, about 0.1% of the population: https://www.newsweek.com/starlink-usage-iran-skyrockets-brea... Compare that to the number of cell phone users which is very close to 100%. All estimates of the number of mobile subscribers or number of mobile phone numbers are greater than the total population.

How are there so many users, see my other comment but i will ask here as well but starlink's american company and sanctioned iran so how do the details really work? And how do starlink recievers enter the country in the first place? This is good that there is still a way to get censorship resistance even after all this perhaps joining it with other protocols which can work via bluetooth,wifi etc. and are more secure…

Tools to evade state surveillance and censorship are explicitly exempted from US sanctions against Iran.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-expands-sanctions-exception...

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by shigawire »

Aloisius wrote: post #175
logicchains wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Apparently the fight is not about freedom but about (perceived) whiteness vs non-whiteness But the Iranians are white. The name Iran is literally derived from "Aryan".

I believe that was the point they were making. While I don't think they're right that Iran is ignored because Iranian protesters and the Iranian government are both perceived as white by Americans (or both non-white, depending on the person), it's undeniable that they use the perceived non-whiteness of Palestinians and perceived whiteness of Israelis as rhetorical ammunition. This rhetorical device is a rather effect…

>Personally, I think Iran is ignored more because Palestine is sucking all the air out of the room than anything else, especially with all the graphic videos/photos.

>Sudan on the other hand... there's really no excuse for ignoring that.

Palestine has the focus because America tax dollars most directly fuel the conflict and it is the most one-sided.

Iran is an internal conflict and Sudan is a civil war - neither of which are as directly funded by the US. Also neither has a perceived clear solution. In the case of Israel, the US should have significant leverage that it does not have in those other conflicts.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by xenospn »

cramsession wrote: post #177
xenospn wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you think all Iranians are just very stupid simpletons who can be convinced to go risk their lives protesting the government that easily? All because some Israelis told them to?

[flagged]

Can you elaborate? How exactly is this being generated? Where are the videos and images coming from? Is the Zionist propaganda also blocking all internet in Iran?

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by syncsynchalt »

inglor_cz wrote: post #154
rvnx wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But isn’t Iran under sanctions? Do sanctions not apply when you are the richest man in the world ?

There is an official exemption for Starlink, and quite logically so, because Internet access outside government control is actually bad for the mullahs and somewhat advantageous for the US.

I didn't know this, so I pulled up a cite for anyone else interested: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-expands-sanctions-exception...

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by bawolff »

helloaltalt wrote: post #136
flotzam wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tor can reach IPv6 destinations through IPv4 entry nodes, if that's what your asking.

IPv4 is sanctioned/heavily restricted in iran as well, I mean very high filtering The reason they didn't do this for ipv6 is because ipv6 obviously has a lot more addresses and so they just ended up blocking it whole. Atleast that's what I read in one of the comment threads discussions in here I don't think that in iran there would still be any available ipv4 entry nodes that they would allow. They would filter/block…

> I don't think that in iran there would still be any available ipv4 entry nodes that they would allow. They would filter/block it as well?

That's what bridges are for.

Blocking is a cat and mouse game. It depends how heavy handed they are about it, but unless they totally cut off the external internet, its unlikely tor is 100% blocked, although it might be effectively blocked for most people.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by esseph »

null_deref wrote: post #165
ReptileMan wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Russians are themselves heavy users of starlink.

Can you provide a source for this claim?

Start here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_in_the_Russian-Ukrain...

Scroll down to Russian use.

Starlink receivers have been found in use in drones by both sides in the war.

There's a lot of Open Source intel on this.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by csb6 »

reissbaker wrote: post #157
croes wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like when the US removed Saddam? How did that wirk out? You need more of a plan than just get rid of a dictator.

It worked out poorly for America — we got stuck in a long expensive war that we got basically nothing from — but for the average Iraqi? I'd much rather be an Iraqi citizen than an Iranian one, and that wouldn't have been true in the 90s. Saddam was pretty evil — and a bad leader. Iraq's GDP per capita is 6x higher today than it was in 2002, a year before the invasion.

It worked out pretty poorly for the average Iraqi. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were killed (some estimates put it at around 1 million), and millions of people became refugees.

Citing the relative GDP per capita number is reductive and doesn’t give a good picture of the average person’s life.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by bawolff »

falaki wrote: post #30

Fortunately, the government cannot enforce complete blackout because thousands of startlink terminals are active inside the country. They have been complaining about it [1] to no avail. Using these terminals activists and journalists continue to upload videos of demonstrations to social media which has enabled analyses that show demonstrations are very wide spread [2] and continue to grow. [1] https://www.itu.int/en/…

Probably the goal of the blackouts is to hinder organizing on social media, discord, whatsapp, etc, not to prevent news getting out.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by cramsession »

xenospn wrote: post #194
cramsession wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Can you elaborate? How exactly is this being generated? Where are the videos and images coming from? Is the Zionist propaganda also blocking all internet in Iran?

This is a good account for coverage: https://x.com/AryJeay/status/2009336400198484306

Some protests are also pro Iranian government, but being framed as anti: https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2009148051663815165

And this was Tel Aviv two days ago: https://x.com/ZahraHamidia/status/2008620128351715644

Much bigger protests in Israel, but without the propaganda spin and artificial reach.

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