Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

boingboing.net

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

191–200 of 239 posts

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

#191

Post by timbit42 »

dkdcio wrote: post #94
tehwebguy wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better question: who the hell is giving these apps (or really any apps) five stars? I don’t rate the apps I use unless other than to give it 1 star for doing something I hate. My banking app’s transaction search doesn’t work at all, so it gets 1 star. But 1.9M ratings resulted in a 5 star average — who are the freaks giving their banking app 5 stars and why?

looks like about 400,000 people for Onedrive rating 5 stars looks like millions for my banking app (Chase) rating 5 stars do you really not understand why people might do things different from you?

After seeing almost everything on Amazon rated about 4.4 out of 5, seeing OneDrive rated a 5 looks like rating manipulation.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

#192

Post by timbit42 »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #189

In a healthy market with viable competition this would either not happen or be swiftly corrected by a massive drop in market share. So what’s gone wrong?

People are locked in. It's not easy to switch to another product. Even if someone is willing the pay the price for another system and pay to have the data moved and apps repurchased, they now have to learn a new OS.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

#193

Post by hollerith »

4ggr0 wrote: post #182
exographicskip wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Love cachyos. Such a great OS. Wanted to love bazzite, but it's got too many opinionated takes and rpm-ostree is a PITA. pacman does have its pitfalls, but aside from upgrades, it's been appliance-level stable for a 100% gaming laptop docked to my tv

> rpm-ostree is a PITA yup...at first i thought, "at work i have to manage rpm-ostree servers, so why not use the same tech at home?", well, because the tech is freaking buggy, annoying and deprecated already (imagemode/bootc). Bazzite also had strange issues with the XBOX controllers i use, those issues went away with CachyOS. in the end it doesn't matter that much, on both i use(d) KDE Plasma . GF also uses the PC…

Bazzite is built using imagemode/bootc; is it not?

I'm trying to understand the "deprecated already" in your first paragraph. (All I know about rpm-ostree is from using and adminning a distro that relies on rpm-ostree. I.e., I don't know much.)

Here is my guess as to what you mean: Bazzite could continue to use imagemode and bootc while replacing rpm-ostree with something better, and maybe you'll give Bazzite another look after that happens.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

#194

Post by cadamsdotcom »

timbit42 wrote: post #192
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #189

In a healthy market with viable competition this would either not happen or be swiftly corrected by a massive drop in market share. So what’s gone wrong?

People are locked in. It's not easy to switch to another product. Even if someone is willing the pay the price for another system and pay to have the data moved and apps repurchased, they now have to learn a new OS.

But that’s the thing, why is it this way? Driving a Hyundai or a Toyota you wouldn’t notice the difference, but learning a new OS is so hard that people don’t do it.

I wish the ergonomics would be more standard so switching costs aren’t so high.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

#195

Post by Bombthecat »

Bombthecat wrote: post #86
juancn wrote: post #33

Windows is not for doing serious stuff anymore, the only remaining use case for me is a gaming PC (if you turn off all the nags, it's pretty decent). I work on a Mac, I run servers on Linux, I game on Windows.

Gaming will be dead soon too... Thanks to hardware shortages..

Ah I see, people don't remember the time where most games just released on console, because it was the biggest target group. This time will come back. Like it or not. People won't buy a pc for 2k.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

#196

Post by joquarky »

juancn wrote: post #33

Windows is not for doing serious stuff anymore, the only remaining use case for me is a gaming PC (if you turn off all the nags, it's pretty decent). I work on a Mac, I run servers on Linux, I game on Windows.

> the only remaining use case for me is a gaming PC

Amiga users have been here before.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

#197

Post by gschizas »

dmix wrote: post #74

I found out my mom was paying for OneDrive because her Android phone autosynced a bunch of her files and she ran out of 'space'. She had no idea what it was but the OS pushed it hard. Microsoft gets their tendrils everywhere.

Could be worse, it could be syncing to Google Photos.

Oh, you want to download all photos so that you can free the cloud space? Too bad, you can only download them one by one. Or use Google Takeout and leave half of them undownloaded.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

#198

Post by phs318u »

The article makes valid points about users misunderstanding how OneDrive works (and ascribing the misunderstanding to “dark patterns”), but I’ve been using Linux (first pop-os and now cachyos) for years, while at the same time shadowing most (not all) of my home directory to OneDrive[0] (I have an annual x365 subscription and that 2TB cloud storage is hard to ignore). I’ve had no issues whatsoever, though admittedly I’m not your average user (40 years in tech). I also make local backups of course, but tbh the utility of having my files available from anywhere is pretty useful to me. YMMV.

[0]. A huge shoutout to the folks behind the amazingly solid https://github.com/abraunegg/onedrive

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

#199

Post by SanjayMehta »

timbit42 wrote: post #190
SanjayMehta wrote: post #87

I use iCloud, Dropbox and OneDrive for family, professional use and junk files respectively. Works out really well. They all work perfectly for their intended uses.

> uses Are you implying each one's intended uses are different? What are the differences?

iCloud is trivial to set up for a family account. We're all on macs.

My company uses Dropbox which is windows and mac.

For some reason Microsoft gave me 40Gb of free storage on skydrive in their early days, and it was always a little off to use, mostly due to search. So it ended up being used to store misc files like software installers which I can always find elsewhere if OneDrive misbehaves.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

#200

Post by CamperBob2 »

snielson wrote: post #57

I love OneDrive. I don't know why everyone hates it. I save things in OneDrive, and they are backed up to the cloud and synced with the other computers I use. Some computers are shared by six family members, each with their own MS account and 1TB of storage. OneDrive makes it so the computers can have a 1TB hard drive but still give everyone ready access to their files by not storing them all on the hard drive. If I…

It's about consent and respect for the user. If you build something awesome, you don't have to shove it down peoples' throats.

When more people Google "How to disable xyz" than "How to enable xyz," that would be a strong hint to most of us, but it doesn't mean anything to Microsoft's developers. ("Hey, at least they're engaging with the product," they tell each other.)

Post reply on HN