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ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by reaperducer »

otterley wrote: post #10
tartoran wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is still not fully supported by law. It is becoming normalized indeed, especially by the current admin. Let's hope this is not going to become widely used or that it doesn't stay permanently, eg. it gets at least restricted to some type of crime by future administrations.

Not supported by law where? I’m unaware of any legal proscription of this practice in the USA, and the Journal article makes no such claims, either. (IAAL but this is not my primary field of expertise, and this is not legal advice.)

Not supported by law where? I’m unaware of any legal proscription of this practice in the USA

Using facial recognition on people without their consent is illegal in a growing number of states.

Facebook lost a class-action lawsuit about this and I (and many other people) got a check for a little under $500.

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by pandaman »

goatlover wrote: post #102
hwguy45 wrote: post #74

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Some say unfortunate, others say fortunate. It's a luxury belief to want to let people walk across the border and have no repercussions. Enforce the border, get all the illegals out.

Everyone in this country regardless of their status is still guaranteed due process by the Constitution. The Venezuelans and Abrego Garcia sent to CECOT was done without due process and in violation of a Federal Judge's orders. Not to mention CECOT is a horrible prison. I think it's cruel and inhuman to deport people already here unless they're engaged in criminal activities. Most of them are hard working people who…

You believe laws were not followed in the case of deportations and seem to be angry about that but simultaneously you want the laws, that demand deportations of illegal aliens, to not be followed. Do you notice any irrationality with this position?

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by [deleted] »

saubeidl wrote: post #60
KnuthIsGod wrote: post #2

When China did this, this was seen as a terrible violation of rights.... Now that we do this hundreds of times a day, it has become routine.

Let me quote the CEO of ycombinator. >You're thinking Chinese surveillance >US-based surveillance helps victims and prevents more victims https://xcancel.com/garrytan/status/1963310592615485955 American capitalists are ideologically driven hypocrites.

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Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #38
rootsudo wrote: post #7

It’s not just facial it’s also gait recognition too.

> It’s not just facial it’s also gait recognition too Source? Where would they get the fingerprints from?

Every grocery store self checkout has cameras on the whole area as you walk up, then cameras on your face, and then pretty good self identification via your payment card/rewards.

Home Depot was already selling at least some of this to Meta in 2023 https://strategyonline.ca/2023/01/26/home-depot-found-to-hav...

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

goatlover wrote: post #174
15155 wrote: post #143

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> Good luck sweeping back the tide. $170B should make a big dent! Southern border encounters are way down: I think it's working!

And how much do you think illegal immigration is costing tax payers for medical care in comparison?

Exactly, none. Illegal immigrants get no federal health care by law.

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Post by idiotsecant »

dleary wrote: post #100
idiotsecant wrote: post #93

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I'm almost as interested in debating this as I would be debating the livejournal girls who worshipped manson. It's the same thing. The guy was a gutless stinking murderer who was so afraid of debating his ideas on the merits that he spent his life shitting himself in a shack tying barbwire across bike trails to decapitate kids he didn't like and mailing innocent people instruments of death, torture, and terror. He was one of the more worthless and useless people to live in recent memory, and that's quite a list.

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by otterley »

_vqpz wrote: post #190
otterley wrote: post #161

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> Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I didn't say it was turning into reddit, I said they suffer from the same problems

That sounds like a distinction without a difference. The point of the guidelines isn’t about the specific words chosen; it’s about making meta-complaints about HN itself.

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by mizzao »

KnuthIsGod wrote: post #2

When China did this, this was seen as a terrible violation of rights.... Now that we do this hundreds of times a day, it has become routine.

Yep, it's converging to the same system...

In China government is controlled by chosen members of the ruling party who become wealthy through it;

In the US the government is controlled by billionaires who become powerful through it.

Neither is a "government by the people" nor a "democratic people's republic" and both are enacting more and more similar policies.

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by otterley »

reaperducer wrote: post #191
otterley wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not supported by law where? I’m unaware of any legal proscription of this practice in the USA, and the Journal article makes no such claims, either. (IAAL but this is not my primary field of expertise, and this is not legal advice.)

Not supported by law where? I’m unaware of any legal proscription of this practice in the USA Using facial recognition on people without their consent is illegal in a growing number of states. Facebook lost a class-action lawsuit about this and I (and many other people) got a check for a little under $500.

It was a settlement, not a “loss” in any legal sense. It sets no legal precedent, and no future plaintiff can cite it.

> The settlement, announced Tuesday, does not act as an admission of guilt and Meta maintains no wrongdoing.

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/07/30/texas-meta-facebook-...

While you are correct that some states do regulate facial recognition, all they can do is regulate their own law enforcement and private entities doing business there. They cannot regulate the federal government (ICE and CBP are federal agencies).

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