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Re: I'm a developer for a major food delivery app

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Post by anon7000 »

symbogra wrote: post #37
hussachai wrote: post #32

> I’m posting this from a library Wi-Fi on a burner laptop because I am technically under a massive NDA. I don’t care anymore. I put in my two weeks yesterday and honestly, I hope they sue me. Why bother using library Wi-Fi on a burner laptop if he doesn't care anymore? Why give out the biggest clue, which is the time of his resignation letter? If the story is real, this company is a straight-up scammer waiting for t…

It's the biggest clue that it's typical reddit brained fanfic.

I mean, it’s not even remotely hard to believe. There are plenty of extremely similar examples, such as:

- grocery delivery algorithmic price fixing: https://youtu.be/osxr7xSxsGo

- dollar general lying about prices: https://youtu.be/uE5THiD-kTk

But yeah, it’d be good to get this backed up even better. Delivery companies are already on thin ice

Re: I'm a developer for a major food delivery app

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Post by thiht »

bb88 wrote: post #38
hussachai wrote: post #32

> I’m posting this from a library Wi-Fi on a burner laptop because I am technically under a massive NDA. I don’t care anymore. I put in my two weeks yesterday and honestly, I hope they sue me. Why bother using library Wi-Fi on a burner laptop if he doesn't care anymore? Why give out the biggest clue, which is the time of his resignation letter? If the story is real, this company is a straight-up scammer waiting for t…

It's also possible he lied about his end date to throw suspicion off. Or he may be still working for the company and used someone else's resignation to pin the blame on them.

That’s what I would have done. Planting a few lies to protect your anonymity can’t hurt. Maybe they quit months ago, or maybe they didn’t even put their notice yet.

Re: I'm a developer for a major food delivery app

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Post by muppetman »

loktarogar wrote: post #142
another_twist wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the claims though ? I dont see the point of getting hung up on just this and discrediting the rest of the story. Tbf this proves nothing without more confirmations however it might be possible to design client side A/B tests to catch this type of behaviour. Might be something NYT or some group with a well resourced investigative arm could pull off.

When I choose priority delivery in Uber, I can see the driver go to the store, pick up my order and drive directly to my place. I also see the driver usually have 1-2 stops on the way if I don't select that. If there's enough gap between myself and the restaurant, priority is absolutely a time save. If this is Uber then it's not legitimate.

Or the app shows you a few fake deliveries... If this story is real then there's no reason you can believe what the app shows you.

Re: I'm a developer for a major food delivery app

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Post by haritha-j »

ahofmann wrote: post #188
MrDresden wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Believability aside (I do think it’s believable personally) this is pretty much how “evil” (from outsider perspective) is done at every company I used to be in a mobile application team for a bank, where I had genuine meetings with the loans department where it was discussed if we truly wanted to make it easy and obvious to users how they could pay their loans on time (their logic was that those who default and hav…

In my new credit card app I can set if I want to repay 3%, 5% or 100% at the end of the month. If I set it to 100%, I have to pay $2 per month. Banking is already actively hostile against the customer.

You have to pay more money when you pay the total amount you owe? That's just evil.

Re: I'm a developer for a major food delivery app

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Post by dzhiurgis »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #170
nxtfari wrote: post #135

Believability aside (I do think it’s believable personally) this is pretty much how “evil” (from outsider perspective) is done at every company, including mine. Inside it’s all sprint meetings, KPIs and terminology that are either intentionally or unintentionally designed to keep engineers far from thinking about impact on real people. It’s easy to convince a 25 year old whiz kid to optimize human assets, it’s just l…

> I do think it’s believable My believability is stretched by them disclosing they "put in my two weeks yesterday." That's highly identifiable and incongruent with "posting...from a library Wi-Fi on a burner laptop."

Doesn’t mean it’s real fact. Deceit is almost required if you’re posting something like this.

Re: I'm a developer for a major food delivery app

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Post by getnewmaterial »

hussachai wrote: post #32

> I’m posting this from a library Wi-Fi on a burner laptop because I am technically under a massive NDA. I don’t care anymore. I put in my two weeks yesterday and honestly, I hope they sue me. Why bother using library Wi-Fi on a burner laptop if he doesn't care anymore? Why give out the biggest clue, which is the time of his resignation letter? If the story is real, this company is a straight-up scammer waiting for t…

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Re: I'm a developer for a major food delivery app

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Post by haritha-j »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #121

> we didn't speed up the priority orders, we just purposefully delayed non-priority orders by 5 to 10 minutes to make the Priority ones "feel" faster by comparison This in particular sounds very fake to me. If they are delaying the regular orders, then they are either a) having drivers sit idle or b) freeing up resources for the priority orders. In the (b) case this would just deliver the promised prioritization beha…

I think its b, but I still think its a dirty trick. Its like when budget airlines prioritise the customers that pay to board first. If no one paid for it, or if everyone paid for it, the effect would be the same, except in the latter case the airline makes extra money.

Re: I'm a developer for a major food delivery app

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Post by prartichoke »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #170
nxtfari wrote: post #135

Believability aside (I do think it’s believable personally) this is pretty much how “evil” (from outsider perspective) is done at every company, including mine. Inside it’s all sprint meetings, KPIs and terminology that are either intentionally or unintentionally designed to keep engineers far from thinking about impact on real people. It’s easy to convince a 25 year old whiz kid to optimize human assets, it’s just l…

> I do think it’s believable My believability is stretched by them disclosing they "put in my two weeks yesterday." That's highly identifiable and incongruent with "posting...from a library Wi-Fi on a burner laptop."

There are two datapoints in the text. One is the 2 weeks notice, the other is that they knew of this since 8 months ago. If this were me, I would give random made up information of this kind to throw off anyone trying to investigate this. Also, this is not that far from what we already know from whistleblowers of similar gig economy companies so my believability is not stretched at all.

Re: I'm a developer for a major food delivery app

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Post by progbits »

huhkerrf wrote: post #147
nxtfari wrote: post #135

Believability aside (I do think it’s believable personally) this is pretty much how “evil” (from outsider perspective) is done at every company, including mine. Inside it’s all sprint meetings, KPIs and terminology that are either intentionally or unintentionally designed to keep engineers far from thinking about impact on real people. It’s easy to convince a 25 year old whiz kid to optimize human assets, it’s just l…

> designed to keep engineers far from thinking about impact on real people Why do we think engineers are some special class of people who can't do bad things?

I used to think that based on my friend bubble, but I've met some coworkers who are real selfish assholes that have shattered this belief.

Re: I'm a developer for a major food delivery app

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Post by reddalo »

zmgsabst wrote: post #155
anonzzzies wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know plenty of Uber (and normal taxis) drivers around the airport here who pick up a someone, then ask if they mind taking someone else. Because it is usually vans and business customers, they don't care and actually kind of like talking with other business guys who probably went or are going to the same seminar/conference etc. The driver will then load up whatever fits who are waiting for taxis or drivers and only…

In Vietnam, if you see a parked driver waiting for a call, you can show him your Grab (ie, Asian copy of Uber) price to go somewhere, then get the same ride for 80%. Why would they mind more cash in their pocket?

The same thing happened to me in Bucharest. The driver would give me a discount if I canceled my Uber reservation and paid in cash.
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