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Re: ManusAI Joins Meta

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Post by zingar »

bigcat12345678 wrote: post #96
chenzhekl wrote: post #63

This acquisition is a complete joke in China. From the very beginning, the company focused almost entirely on marketing. Then, after a few months, it fled China and relocated to Singapore. Now that it’s been acquired by Meta, you could say it has finally fulfilled its mission.

I am Chinese and AI founder since 2023 This statement is completely baseless 1. Manus was never targeting Chinese domestic market, for obvious reasons 2. Manus was founded by successful founder with exit, backed toptier investors in China, they always have great reputation in the AI industry 3. Prior to manus' launch, the team developed Monica, as they are the frontier AI chat bot aggregator I really felt disgusted b…

> they attribute their success to morally inferior conduct

I’m not seeing accusations of morally inferior conduct here. Tech people like to dunk on marketing people no matter where in the world they are.

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Post by bwfan123 »

Anon1096 wrote: post #52
syspec wrote: post #8

> This announcement is more than just a headline—it's validation of our pioneering work with General AI Agents. Anyone else thought this was satire when they read that as the second line in the announcement? I literally laughed, then clicked the top left logo, to check out the homepage and see if this `ManuAI` was a real website. --- You would think that they would know better to at least edit that out. It's not just…

To anyone who isn't deep in the AI hype space it reads like satire to include such an obvious AI tell but I think it's a positive in the eyes of the AI hype world. It's like how anyone not a lizard is repulsed by LinkedIn speak and yet it dominates the platform.

I saw this in a past hype cycle. What happens is that it becomes a "performative" art in an echo-chamber for startups, startup founders, VCs. Performative meaning doing things one thinks others want to see rather than when it makes sense.

Management is quizzing their tech teams on injecting agents into their workflows whatever the f that means. Some of these big companies will acquire startups in the space so they are not left behind on the hype-train. So, they can claim to have agentic talent on their teams.

Those of us who have seen this movie play out know the ending.

Re: ManusAI Joins Meta

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Post by maddmann »

I do think Manus had a better approach than some of the competitors of the space, allowing for far more agentic flows (ie manus would run its own code, debug, write and run tests, etc). Lovable or v0 by contrast are quite primitive. Very unfortunate that they are a part of meta now, where mark will likely micromanage and destroy the core value of the product.

Re: ManusAI Joins Meta

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Post by [deleted] »

basch wrote: post #168
aylmao wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think both aquisitions have little to do with the product, and make a lot of sense when you look at the numbers and broader strategy. WhatsApp had a very clear value at the time of aquisition. It had 450 million users, growth of over 1 million users a day, and was in direct competition with one of Facebook's main products (Messenger) [1]. They did pay $4 billion cash + $15 billion in shares, which is a lot, but ove…

If two $1B companies 'merge' and the surviving entity gives the acquired entity $1B in shares, it didnt 'cost' the acquiring entity anything. Facebook's stock was up 20% later in the year after the acquisition. Facebook was worth $134.2-139.2B end of 2013 and $217.5-218.5B end of 2014. I would say it is misleading to say it cost them $15B in shares if the remaining shares FB kept ended up more valuable after the tran…

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Re: ManusAI Joins Meta

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Post by 9cb14c1ec0 »

bko wrote: post #183
lokar wrote: post #181

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It’s not so hard to get ARR if you don’t care about margin.

Cool, sounds like you discovered a life hack. Build something that can get $100m ARR while losing money, sell it, become billionaire. Build something that can get 1k users. No in fact, build something that can get 100 users! No offense, but you sounds like someone who has never actually had to build a business or product. It's hard to build something people use, even if its free. This isn't moviepass concept where th…

If you are having problems attracting users, even when free, consider that maybe your product doesn't offer much value to them. I say this as someone who has bootstrapped a 7 figure software business.

Re: ManusAI Joins Meta

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Post by bko »

9cb14c1ec0 wrote: post #196
bko wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cool, sounds like you discovered a life hack. Build something that can get $100m ARR while losing money, sell it, become billionaire. Build something that can get 1k users. No in fact, build something that can get 100 users! No offense, but you sounds like someone who has never actually had to build a business or product. It's hard to build something people use, even if its free. This isn't moviepass concept where th…

If you are having problems attracting users, even when free, consider that maybe your product doesn't offer much value to them. I say this as someone who has bootstrapped a 7 figure software business.

Correct, it's very hard to provide value, which is my point.

As someone who bootstrapped a 7 figure business, would you say getting to 9 figures ARR is easy as long as you don't care about margins?

Re: ManusAI Joins Meta

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Post by giancarlostoro »

bko wrote: post #183
lokar wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not so hard to get ARR if you don’t care about margin.

Cool, sounds like you discovered a life hack. Build something that can get $100m ARR while losing money, sell it, become billionaire. Build something that can get 1k users. No in fact, build something that can get 100 users! No offense, but you sounds like someone who has never actually had to build a business or product. It's hard to build something people use, even if its free. This isn't moviepass concept where th…

> Build something that can get 1k users. No in fact, build something that can get 100 users!

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Re: ManusAI Joins Meta

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Post by giancarlostoro »

throw-12-16 wrote: post #148
ares623 wrote: post #128

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It really does seem like friends giving friends a piece of the pie before it all blows up.

Congrats, you have summarized the majority of SV startups.

Sounds like I need better friends, but my moral compass wont let me stoop that low.
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