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Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did, although a long time ago, so maybe I need to try it again. But it still seems to be stuck in a chat-like interface instead of something tailored to software development. Think IDE but better.

I think Aider is closest to what you want. The chat interface is optimal to me because you often are asking questions and seeking guidance or proposals as you are making actual code changes. On reason I do like it is that its default mode of operation is to make a commit for each change it makes. So it is extremely clear what the AI did vs what you did vs what is a hodge podge of both. As others have mentioned, you c…

Aider can be a chat interface and it's great for that but you can also use it from your editor by telling it to watch your files.[1]

So you'd write a function name and then tell it to flesh it out.

  function factorial(n) // Implement this. AI!
Becomes:

  function factorial(n) {
    if (n === 0 || n === 1) {
      return 1;
    } else {
      return n \* factorial(n - 1);
    }
  }
Last I looked Aider's maintainer has had to focus on other things recently, but aider-ce is a fantastic fork.

I'm really curious to try Mistral's vibe, but even though I'm a big fanboi I don't want to be tied to just one model. Aider lets tier your models such that your big, expensive model can do all the thinking and then stuff like code reviews can run through a smaller model. It's a pretty capable tool

Edit: Fix formatting

[1] https://aider.chat/docs/usage/watch.html

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#192
post #167

The system prompt and tool prompts for their open source (Apache 2 licensed) Python+Textual+Pydantic CLI tool are fun to read: core/prompts/cli.md https://github.com/mistralai/mistral-vibe/blob/v1.0.4/vibe/c... core/prompts/compact.md https://github.com/mistralai/mistral-vibe/blob/v1.0.4/vibe/c... .../prompts/bash.md https://github.com/mistralai/mistral-vibe/blob/v1.0.4/vibe/c... .../prompts/grep.md https://github.co…

Based on your experience with Claude Code, how does Mistral Vibe compare?

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#193

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Condescending and disrespectful to whom? Everybody wholsale? This doesnt seem reasonable? Please elaborate.

Not sure if I'd use the same descriptions so pointedly , but I can see what they mean. It's perfectly fine to link for convenience, but it does feel a little disrespectful/SEO-y to not 'continue the conversation' . A summary in the very least, how exactly it pertains. Sell us. In a sense, link-dropping [alone] is saying: "go read this and establish my rhetorical/social position, I'm done here" Imagine meeting an auth…

Hell, I would consider myself graced that simonw, yes, THAT simonw, the LLM whisperer, took time out of his busy schedule to send me to a discussion I might have expressed interest in.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#194
post #72

Let's see which company becomes the first to sell "coding appliances": hardware with a model good enough for normal coding. If Mistral is so permissive they could be the first ones, provided that hardware is then fast/cheap/efficient enough to create a small box that can be placed in an office. Maybe in 5 years.

My Macbook Pro with an M4 Pro chip can handle a number of these models (I think it has 16GB of VRAM) with reasonable performance, my bottleneck continuously is the token caps. I assume someone with a much more powerful Mac Studio could run way more than I can, considering they get access to about 96GB of VRAM out of the system RAM iirc.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#196

Let's say you had a hardware budget of $5,000. What machine would you buy or build to run Devstral Small 2? The HuggingFace page claims it can run on a Mac with 32 GB of memory or an RTX 4090. What kind of tokens per second would you get on each? What about DGX Spark? What about RTX 5090 or Pro series? What about external GPUs on Oculink with a mini PC?

All those choices seem to have very different trade-offs? I hate $5,000 as a budget - not enough to launch you into higher-VRAM RTX Pro cards, too much (for me personally) to just spend on a "learning/experimental" system. I've personally decided to just rent systems with GPUs from a cloud provider and setup SSH tunnels to my local system. I mean, if I was doing some more HPC/numerical programming (say, similarity se…

> I've personally decided to just rent systems with GPUs from a cloud provider and setup SSH tunnels to my local system.

That's a good idea!

Curious about this, if you don't mind sharing:

- what's the stack ? (Do you run like llama.cpp on that rented machine?)

- what model(s) do you run there?

- what's your rough monthly cost? (Does it come up much cheaper than if you called the equivalent paid APIs)

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#198
post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if I'd use the same descriptions so pointedly , but I can see what they mean. It's perfectly fine to link for convenience, but it does feel a little disrespectful/SEO-y to not 'continue the conversation' . A summary in the very least, how exactly it pertains. Sell us. In a sense, link-dropping [alone] is saying: "go read this and establish my rhetorical/social position, I'm done here" Imagine meeting an auth…

Hell, I would consider myself graced that simonw, yes, THAT simonw, the LLM whisperer, took time out of his busy schedule to send me to a discussion I might have expressed interest in.

> send me to a discussion I might have expressed interest in

No, no, remember? Points to the blog you were already reading! Working diligently to build a brand: podcast, paid newsletter, the works.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#199
post #2

I'm so glad Mistral never sold out. We're really lucky to have them in the EU at the time when we're so focused on mil-tech etc.

I don’t think it was ever an option since it had ties with the french government early on (Cédric O) and Macron’s party is quite pro EU

They let so many important French companies down. So, yes, it could happen despite this beginning.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#200
post #12
post #2

I'm so glad Mistral never sold out. We're really lucky to have them in the EU at the time when we're so focused on mil-tech etc.

They’ll switch to military tech the second it becomes necessary, don’t kid yourself. I’m just glad we have a European alternative for the day the US decides to turn its back on us. This tech is simply too critical to pretend the military won’t use it. That’s clearer now than ever, especially after the (so far flop-ish) launch of the U.S. military’s own genAI platform.

> I’m just glad we have a European alternative for the day the US decides to turn its back on us.

They did.

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