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Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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> I think people who kept saying there is no moat in AI is about to be shocked at how strong of a moat there actually is for ChatGPT Given one can (at least for the moment) export one's entire chat history from ChatGPT, what exactly would stop a ChatGPT user from switching to an alternative if the alternative is either better, or better value?

99% of users having no idea what "export chat history" means?

> 99% of users having no idea what "export chat history" means?

Yet Google Chrome managed to make Safari/Edge irrelevant.

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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- ~1 billion users in just 3 years - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products - Strong branding for non-techie people (most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are) - An app that is getting more and more addictive/indispensable I think OpenAI is going to kill it in ads eventually. This is why Meta and Google went all in on AI. Their lucrative di…

Spinning up an all-new ad network is pretty tough. I would think OpenAI would need to beat Meta/Google on basics like CPM in order for the network effects to make it desirable for ad vendors over Meta/Google. Ad budgets are fixed and zero-sum and vendors (in my head, I don't know) would prefer to spend their money on the best network giving the best results. I don't know if ads in LLM chats can get there.

If OpenAI manages to get the agentic buying going, that could be big. They could tie the ad bidding to the user actually making the purchase, instead of just paying for clicks.

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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- ~1 billion users in just 3 years - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products - Strong branding for non-techie people (most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are) - An app that is getting more and more addictive/indispensable I think OpenAI is going to kill it in ads eventually. This is why Meta and Google went all in on AI. Their lucrative di…

> I think people who kept saying there is no moat in AI is about to be shocked at how strong of a moat there actually is for ChatGPT Given one can (at least for the moment) export one's entire chat history from ChatGPT, what exactly would stop a ChatGPT user from switching to an alternative if the alternative is either better, or better value?

What alternative? Switching requires something what is better 10x

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Hoping this pushes a new generation of adblockers, but I'm skeptical it'll stay a fair fight. The next wave of ads will likely be far subtler than today's web ads - more integrated into content, harder to detect, and easier to normalize.

I don’t think there's enough compute available to parse everything shown on screen at all times. Those "full day batteries" would die pretty quickly.

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Not sure why you're being downvoted. At least you provided a source for your comment, unlike GP.

I must be blind. How do you downvote? I've only ever seen an upvote.

You have to have a minimum amount of karma here to get a down vote button. I think it's 500.

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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In the 1980s, the American Heart Association listed many contributors to heart disease. A missing one: smoking. At some point, it was revealed that Big Tobacco was a major contributor to the AHA. They now list tobacco as a big risk factor.

This is straight up just a bold faced lie. Big Tobacco never funded the American Heart Association. AHA never purposefully ommited smoking as a cause of heart disease. In fact, they were at the forefront of the research to prove a link between smoking and heart disease. They met with the The Surgeon General in 1961 to request the formation of the Advisory Committee on Smoking and Health. Report can be viewed here - h…

I'm more inclined to believe the person you responded to given how often I saw the AHA heart check logo on some questionable cereals in the 90s.

Yeah, these cereals have soluble fiber...with a bunch of sugar.

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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And yet most of the people I know, including many technical ones, default to ChatGPT before Google's AI Studio. Google has general brand awareness, but ChatGPT has become the Bandaid or Kleenex of AI

Fun fact: that's called a generic trademark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_trademark

When you call your product "(Chat) Generative Pretrained Transformer" then I don't think you have a great defense against genericisation.

The legal history of these is interesting, lots of household names have lost their trademarks, and lots of seemingly generic names are still trademarked. This way to the rabbit hole -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_and_genericize...

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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> most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are In think the point is that they don’t need to know what Gemini is, they just need to know Google, which they most definitely do. IMO ads rollout won’t be as simple as you’re describing it. A lot of people have switched from Google search to AI specifically because it isn’t filled with SEO, ad filled nonsense. So they’ll need to tread very, very carefully to in…

> most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are That's actually changed a while ago.

Claude? I’d be extremely surprised.

Gemini? As gemini.google.com or as the thoroughly mediocre “AI summaries” on top of Google Search results?

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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> most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are In think the point is that they don’t need to know what Gemini is, they just need to know Google, which they most definitely do. IMO ads rollout won’t be as simple as you’re describing it. A lot of people have switched from Google search to AI specifically because it isn’t filled with SEO, ad filled nonsense. So they’ll need to tread very, very carefully to in…

Yeah, I saw several people who only first tried AI chats on Google's new "AI Mode", which uses Gemini, but doesn't mention it anywhere.

Even “AI mode” isn’t mainstream yet, at least in my observation.

“AI summaries” are, but they seem to be powered by an even weaker model.

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