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PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

#193

When did a PS5 become a unit of cost? For reference seems to be about 0.002 London buses

Never.

That's a an analogy-- a literary technique the writer is using, to show the correspondence between the price of a specific amount of DDR5 RAM to a fully integrated system, so the reader can follow the conclusions of their article easier.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

#194

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"memory manufacturers have been operating on the margins of profitability for quite a while now." The manufacturers are scumbags is more likely answer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandal

I don't disagree per-se, but this is the sort of thing which happens when only a few businesses exist in a commodity market with high entry costs. IOW, it's not great, but it is predictable. See: Oil.

It's usually not only illegal, but also a crime.

Anyway, that's the kind of market that governments always need to act upon and either supply directly or regulate intensively.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

#195

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The “regular” and “premium” label at the pump is misleading. The premium gas isn’t better. It’s just different. Unless your car specifically requires higher octane fuel, there is no benefit to paying for it. https://www.kbb.com/car-advice/gasoline-guide/

You get slightly better mpg on premium, just not enough to justify the cost.

Not unless you’re adjusting timing. Premium gas has lower energy per unit mass and per unit volume than standard gas.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

#196

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> Why would not the same apply advice to oil and gas contracts? Because oil & gas suppliers only ever sell one product, and memory fabs can dynamically switch product mix in response to supply & demand to optimize profits. The same sand, power and water can make DDR4, HBM or DDR5

Oil and gas suppliers have several products: gas, diesel, jet a, propane, naptha, asphalt etc.

Aren't the proportions is those essentially static?

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

#197

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In the share prices. Hope you're rich, because that's the only thing the economy cares about.

Many apps support buying fractional shares. You don't have to be rich to buy shares in public companies.

It's only meaningful if you have enough disposable income to invest that it eventually (and I don't mean in 50 years) makes a dent against your living expenses.

If you make $4k/mo and rent is $3k, it's pretty silly to state that it's a meaningful thing for someone to scrimp and invest $100/mo into a brokerage account.

They definitely should do this, but it's not going to have any meaningful impact on their life for decades at best. Save for a decade to get $12k in your brokerage account, say it doubles to $24k. If you then decide you can get a generous 5% withdrawal rate you are talking $600/yr against rent that is now probably $3500/mo or more. Plus you're killing your compounding.

It's good to have so emergencies don't sink you - but it's really an annoying talking point I hear a lot lately. Eye rolling when you are telling someone struggling this sort of thing.

It really only makes a major impact if you can dump large amounts of cash into an account early in life - or if you run into a windfall.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

#198

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I think it's intended as a comparison of cost when building a gaming-capable computer vs. a console of somewhat equivalent power. It used to be a general rule of thumb that you could build a computer of roughly equivalent power for the cost of a game console, or a little more — now the memory costs more than the whole console.

> I think it's intended as a comparison of cost when building a gaming-capable computer vs. a console of somewhat equivalent power. The PS5 has 16GB of RAM. One can buy 16GB of RAM for ~$100 [1]. [1] https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9fgFf7/kingston-fury-beast-...

Thank you for mentioning this. Not knowing the specs of a PS5, I'd assumed that the comparison was made because the PS5 now sold for less than the RAM it contains, and scalpers were now hungrily buying up all available PlayStation inventory just to tear them open and feast on the RAM inside.

But since it's 16 GB, the comparison doesn't really make sense.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

#199

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Yes, stupid comparison really. Also 64GB is pretty high-end from a consumer perspective. Most would do just fine with 32 as 2x16GB.

Maybe if they expect to upgrade within a few years it would be fine. But when I built my current computer 11 years ago I also didn't expect to need 16 gb of ram and only bought 8. 5 years later 16 gb of memory was a requirement for both software and games I was playing. And now 11 years later 16 gigs is not enough for fairly "simple" 3d modelling and 32 gigs is pretty close to the minimum requirement to fully utilize…

I bought a 16gb desktop for work in 2011, plenty for Visual Studio at the time. 8 is a bit skimpy for a desktop build even in 2014.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

#200

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Maybe that is the answer to how things are supposed to work if AI replaces everyone and no one can afford to buy their stuff. Things being too cheap allows money to pool at the bottom in little people's hands in the forms of things like "their homes" and "their computers" and "their cars". You don't really want billions in computing hardware (say) being stashed down there in inefficient, illiquid physical form, you w…

I very much disagree that consumers holding more hardware capabilities than they need is a bad thing. Replace computing hardware with mechanical tools, because they are basically tools, and consider if consumers be better off if wrenches and saw blades and machine tools were held more exclusively by business and large corporations. Would corporations use them more often? Probably. And yet it seems pretty clear that i…

I think you missed some sarcasm there.
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