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SteamCube would have honestly been such a cool name. My current PC has a Ryzen 7 5800X and an Intel Arc B580 and I don't really have the need for a device to connect to a TV (which I also don't have), but I can definitely see the appeal to something that is both okay at games, as well as has hardware that the software works really well with, with minimal amounts of driver weirdness. Not everyone views building or buy…
I've been using a somewhat low-spec PC to play games and for general desktop usage. Finding stuff in this form factor, that you can guarantee will be well put together and worth the money is a rarity. Highly likely this could replace my desktop, as I don't need something much more powerful, just with more modern hardware. I don't do much AAA gaming and nearly game in my Steam library would run on this just fine. My r…
I think that this is the issue with most people these days... The combination of work, seen it all, and frankly, often disappointing AAA games.
The time spend is often on more smaller studios that do something creative, and those are often not triple A graphical monsters anyway.
> This is going to be a no-brainer for my next upgrade.
Really depends on the price... Do not forget that its going to be released in 2026... At that time we get new Zen 6 CPUs (remember, this Steam Deck is Zen4), what will drive the prices of the old Zen4 down even more. Same with new GPUs.
Like, the Steam deck was incredible pricing for the hardware you got when released and sure, its still a good value for a handheld console, but from a hardware point of view, its really old now (zen2 cores).
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Valve is still evil, just like any for-profit tech corps. They have made a fortune in csgo gambling boxes
there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of for-profit companies that are not “evil” - making money is not evil endeavor, you provide goods and services in exchange for money :)
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Yes. Because if unrelated industries decide to give up then a theoretical collapse becomes an unavoidable economic collapse. And history has proven that war usually follows economic collapses. So literally the best thing Valve could do here is carry on like usual.
Notice that I'm not discussing economic collapse, I'm mentioning the environment and international relationships (e.g. the apparent return from the rule of international right we've had since WW2, however partially and imperfectly, to the rule of international anarchy we've seen in Europe since the birth of feodalism). Notice that I'm also not criticizing Valve. They're doing what they feel is best for their business…
Noice how I also discussed international relationships. I didn’t miss your point.
> Notice that I'm also not criticizing Valve. They're doing what they feel is best for their business. What I'm disagreeing with is enthusiasm for buying yet another gaming rig in the above circumstances.
My same rebuttal applies.
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Which means what exactly? Inserting a random factoid does not make a sentence have a point.
Which means that you can "target" all that you want, if you don't have the dozens of millions of USD of advertising budget that your competitors have, you don't really stand a chance against the incumbents.
Valve also does not need to advertise to the general public, the general public is not their demographic.
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> a comparable desktop experience to the commercial OSes Isn't it alteady comparable? My Linux desktop has almost the same game compatibility that Windows has, and none of the advertising and jank. Gone are the legendary days of xorg.conf. Linux has less problems than Windows now. Support from professional software vendors (Dassault, Autodesk, et al) and Nvidia could be better, admittedly, but these restrictions aren…
> Support from professional software vendors [..] and Nvidia could be better, admittedly, but these restrictions aren't very relevant to me. Quality of support from Nvidia on linux is the reason that I went with AMD for my linux work+gaming rig. That's why probably Valve chosen AMD too. As amount of linux gamers increases, maybe Nvidia will see the light too. For me, linux+AMD+Steam stack "just works".
They probably don't even bother picking up the phone when Valve calls. Only AMD will sell you an integrated CPU/GPU system with the power envelope needed for modern games.
I don't understand the "You can’t buy this without buying the Steam Controller." bit. If you want one, great, if not, it's no more necessary than with any other PC. I've been gaming for ~40 years without ever touching a controller, why would I start now?
Its like there is a identify crisis even at Valve. Why can this not be a streaming machine for people who want to remote game. Why do you need a controller, if maybe you have a steam deck and stream PC games from the Steam PC > Deck...
What if you just want to use this as a cheap dedicated gaming PC with a monitor and keyboard/mouse.
I feel like there is a identify crisis with the product. Like the started out making a console, but then realized that nothing prevents people from using this as a cheap PC, if Valve puts the price too low. So you have this retraction on the pricing.
For those who didn't read til the end: > Fuck it, I'm getting one.
When I first saw the Arduino I didn't see the point - after all there were boards that cost less, did more, and the Arduino IDE seemed very barebones compared to what you could do with GCC and a custom toolchain. Then eventually I saw how much community support, ready made hardware emerged around it, to the point that after a while, not going the Arduino route was a decision you needed to justify heavily. Same thing…
The Arduino was 30$ when it came out. The Raspberry was 35$. I'd be astonished if they manage to get the Steam Machine down to 800$ (bundled with a controller). Knowing how Valve loves their margins, it's probably closer to 1000$ or even more. This is not something you spontaneously buy to play around with.
Plus the 7600M (which is suspected to be the Steam Machine GPU) is an existing design on a legacy node, and they don't have to worry about it threatening their current lineup. They can go pretty low with the price.
They might get something out of it - considering the modest hardware, devs will have to optimize for it, which might get them a couple extra percent on more modern hardware as well.