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Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by qwerpy »

GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #183
qwerpy wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One man’s abomination is another man’s ideal family car :) There is no other consumer car that can self-drive from start to finish for an entire trip. That alone will keep me on Tesla until the others catch up. Crash tests have shown that it’s excellent at protecting its occupants, which matters to me as a father of two. The cyberpunk aesthetic, whole home battery backup, and large secured truck bed are just icing on…

> The cyberpunk aesthetic the dystopian, authoritarian, hypercapitalist hellscape aesthetic is icing on the cake for a family vehicle?

That's a lot of your own judgment you've layered on top of it.

For a more joyful interpretation of cybertruck aesthetics, do a image search for "cybertruck trick or treat". I volunteered to provide my truck for my kid's school Halloween party and decorated it to look like the chomp chomp monster from Mario. Kids loved it.

(sure it's not cyberpunk but it's an example of how the look can be used for family friendly innocent fun)

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Post by DonHopkins »

mschuster91 wrote: post #180
sfpotter wrote: post #174

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In my experience, Tesla drivers are some of the worst drivers on the road. They seem to pay the least attention to what's going on around them and are the most likely to pay fast and loose with the rules of the road. I don't know what's to account for this. There has been at least one study out of Berkeley that suggests that people who drive more expensive cars are more likely to break the rules of the road. It's pos…

> There has been at least one study out of Berkeley that suggests that people who drive more expensive cars are more likely to break the rules of the road. In Germany, we have a joke - BMWs don't need turn signal indicators, they have built-in precedence that comes with paying the money one needs to have to afford a BMW.

Who needs Fahrvergnügen when you can have Bezahltumvorfahrtsgefühligkeitsrechtserwartung (Paid-for-precedence-feeling-of-entitlement-expectation)?

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Post by testing22321 »

anonporridge wrote: post #186
bryanlarsen wrote: post #133

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It looks like it's designed to inflict maximum harm, but it seems that it's actually less likely to kill you than an F-150 or Silverado or Ram. It has a lower hood height which is the aspect that has been hypothesized to be the reason that trucks kill pedestrians at a much greater rate than cars. I'm not trying to condone Cybertruck here. I hope the Cybertruck becomes a rallying cry to mandate pedestrian safety in th…

Cybertruck is a great case study in how people confuse form for function. In a world where technology is advancing exponentially, aesthetics increasingly offer a poor signal for performance, and only those who obsessively look under the hood and disregard form will see through it all.

Yep. There were endless articles and hundreds of comments here about how atrocious the crash safety of the cyber truck must be for occupants. Everyone knew for a fact it had no crumple zone, etc.

Then the actual crash testing data comes out…… And crickets.

Peoples intuition is very, very wrong.

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Post by testing22321 »

fainpul wrote: post #88
gbhdrew wrote: post #68

The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.

It's not legal in europe.

Neither are many vehicles sold in the US. That doesn’t tell us much.

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Post by bee_rider »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #133
gbhdrew wrote: post #68

The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.

It looks like it's designed to inflict maximum harm, but it seems that it's actually less likely to kill you than an F-150 or Silverado or Ram. It has a lower hood height which is the aspect that has been hypothesized to be the reason that trucks kill pedestrians at a much greater rate than cars. I'm not trying to condone Cybertruck here. I hope the Cybertruck becomes a rallying cry to mandate pedestrian safety in th…

Are there enough Cybertrucks on the roads for us to detect their danger levels statistically? I’ve never seen one and I don’t live in the middle of nowhere or anything…

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Post by s5300 »

SoftTalker wrote: post #119
ilamont wrote: post #3

The issue stems from the primer applied before gluing the optional light bar to the windshield (no fasteners are used in the attachment of the light bar). Is that typical in the industry, parts or components being glued onto an exterior surface instead of fastened?

Yes. The frame is welded, but more and more the body panels are glued. BMW has been doing this for a while. Modern adhesives are as strong as spot welds for this sort of thing.

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Post by John23832 »

realo wrote: post #81
chrisco255 wrote: post #72

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BYDs are never coming to the American market.

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While I wouldn't piss on him to put him out, the Trump administration is not the nucleus of anti-chinese sentiment. It happened way before him. He's just loud and hamfisted about it.

Canada specifically, as a major supplier to US auto manufacturers and a resource economy in it's own right, should be wary of cozying up to Chinese business.

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Post by testing22321 »

monocasa wrote: post #42
toomuchtodo wrote: post #19

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I tried with much effort to import a BYD, and the federal government slowed me down every step of the way to where I gave up around regime change last November. If you have a way I can buy a BYD today, regardless of cost, in the US, I would be interested. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39992428

How far did you get, and what do you mean "regardless of cost"? The big issue is going to be getting the vehicle to pass FMVSS, and it looks like no one has successfully done it. Have you talked to an RI to see if they know why?

I’m going through the RI process now for a vehicle ( not EV, not Chinese, not BYD)

If a vehicle was never sold in the US and is not FMVSS compliant (with a sticker), then the RI has to prove every piece of consequence IS compliant. Airbags tested to DOT standards. Headlights. Taillights. Seatbelts. Wipers. Crash safety. Dash lights, warning lights, backup camera FOV. TPMS. The list is like 10,000 things long.

Probably it does meet 99% of them , and the non-compliant things are an easy fix (we’re changing speedo in mine to mph).

The trick is you have to document and prove every single item on the list, often with lab testing. It takes years, and often millions of dollars.

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Post by nova22033 »

hnburnsy wrote: post #165
chazzalpha wrote: post #90

I don't know how any Tesla investor can justify paying anyone $1 trillion when the products he makes keep falling apart.

Making cars is hard, just ask Ford... >As of this story's publication, Thursday, September 4, 2025, Ford has issued 109 recalls that have covered 7,871,344 vehicles. Of course, quite a few of those cars are repeat offenders, but you get the point. It's staggering. >Of those 109 recalls, 26 of them are re-recalls. That means they're recalls on recalls Ford has already carried out, >Read More: https://www.jalopnik.com/…

What is the PE for Ford v/s the PE for Tesla.
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