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Carice TC2 – A non-digital electric car

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I don’t understand. Vinyl wrapping cars is a normal thing for car people. What’s the difference?

One of the key design points of the Cyvertruck was that brutalist "slab of shiny steel" look. Apparently owners often want a bit more manicured looks.

Or they want to be able to pick their car out more easily from other cybertrucks.

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Oh, yet another luxury EV. Wake me up when a manufacturer finally commits to making an EV that everyone can afford and isn't a cloud-connected privacy nightmare.

Privacy nightmare undoubtedly, but if you want affordable EVs BYD has you covered. A fully-functional, crash-worthy and apparently quite decent EV for around 16,000 USD (in Australia). If you can't buy one, blame your government: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-reviews/2026-byd-atto-1-rev...

What do you mean by crash-worthy? Like it's so cheap it doesn't matter if you wreck it, or that you're likely to survive if you're in a crash?

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For a toy? definitely "luxury money"

I wouldn't say a "toy". Depending on your needs you could easily daily a 2-seater convertible with a couple of hundred miles range.

Yeah toy might be a little negative. I think it's a leisure vehicle, and, at least as I read the marketing, they're leaning into that. Seems like the extended range model is 300km. If you need a car, you probably don't want it to be this one.

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How does this interact with the EU "eCall" mandate? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECall (one of those things I've seen very little discussion of, the WP page correctly points out that this mandates a mobile-station in every car; although it does not precisely mandate that it be always-on, in practice it will be in order to manage messaging promptly)

Since eCall uses 112 infrastructure, it does not need subscriber identity, as the call will be accepted by any network in range.

Isn't the network still tracking you via the modem's IMEI in that case?

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I mean, even back in the OnStar days, you could "opt out" and cancel the service and it would track you anyway. With BYD or any other car maker, I'd be worried the SIM was a placebo.

What would the car maker gain from adding a decoy sim?

How far of a jump is it from the buses in Norway with hidden remote access to "decoy sim"? It might not even be a decoy -- it might just be the sim for the "user facing" telematic/infotainment, and there's another, non-optional one.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45824658

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I mean, even back in the OnStar days, you could "opt out" and cancel the service and it would track you anyway. With BYD or any other car maker, I'd be worried the SIM was a placebo.

This is where things like a HackRF or flipper zero are useful - leave a scan running over 24 hours from multiple fixed locations within the vehicle and you can detect if there are any wireless transmissions, and then triangulate on exactly where they come from using several pieces of yarn cut to the length of estimated distance from the source. Cars should be independent, local only devices. Having cloud dependencies…

Flipper Zero can't see cell signals.

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I thought this was removed due to abuse taking place with such phones

Oh hm, I don't know, and I didn't want to try by placing spurious emergency calls.

Try next time you see an emergency that you can call in, to pop your sim first. At least if it's not one where seconds count.

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Oh, yet another luxury EV. Wake me up when a manufacturer finally commits to making an EV that everyone can afford and isn't a cloud-connected privacy nightmare.

It’s a shame the Nissan Leaf has so many privacy issues, because otherwise the price is good.

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I don’t understand. Vinyl wrapping cars is a normal thing for car people. What’s the difference?

Normal in the USA maybe? It’s very unusual here in Australia to see a wrapped car.

In my part of EU it's actually pretty common, especially on exotic cars.

I guess the main appeal is "paint protection". Seems redundant to me, but people do like to apply screen protectors to their phones, which is another thing I don't fully comprehend so you know...

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