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I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars

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Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars

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Post by hinkley »

Sebb767 wrote: post #16

I dislike those black and white takes a lot. It's absolutely true that most startups that just run an EC2 instance will save a lot of cash going to Hetzner, Linode, Digital Ocean or whatever. I do host at Hetzner myself and so do a lot of my clients. That being said, the cloud does have a lot of advantages: - You're getting a lot of services readily available. Need offsite backups? A few clicks. Managed database? A f…

I want more examples of people running the admin interface on prem and the user visible parts on the cloud.

Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars

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ffsm8 wrote: post #185
jaredhallen wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree to disagree.

It's basically multiplication with fractions, just like you get 1/4 from 1/2 * 1/2, which is once again a multiplication that turns into division I agree that it's a suboptimal and click baity way to phrase it though...

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Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars

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Post by normie3000 »

DANmode wrote: post #182
normie3000 wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So security's too hard for Google. But if this happens at work and we're using Google Cloud, I say "sorry boss, Google messed up". If we're running our own servers, who do I blame?

Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM!

:) you definitely haven't changed my mind!

Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars

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Post by umrashrf »

This exactly what was happening with me and I recently started a project called Postbase to setup my own cloud infrastructure. There is so much free OSS software out there which is 100x better than what Google, Amazon and other offer. github.com/umrashrf/postbase (this is in alpha and work in progress).

Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars

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Post by fathermarz »

I’m fundamentally confused. A server in a datacenter is still the cloud. Taking something off the cloud means you have hardware somewhere that you physically manage and pay the power bill.

This is simply collapsing the built for scale tools into a cacophony of open source tools.

You didn’t need it to begin with, you just didn’t know any better.

Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars

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Post by alrs »

fathermarz wrote: post #195

I’m fundamentally confused. A server in a datacenter is still the cloud. Taking something off the cloud means you have hardware somewhere that you physically manage and pay the power bill. This is simply collapsing the built for scale tools into a cacophony of open source tools. You didn’t need it to begin with, you just didn’t know any better.

I'm going to go way out on a limb and offer: whatever it is that you are, it isn't "confused."

Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars

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Post by ascorbic »

rameerez wrote: post #136
ascorbic wrote: post #29

Cheap shot maybe, but the fact that the page takes 10 seconds to load when it hits the HN front page is a great, inadvertant illustration of why you might want to use the cloud sometimes.

OP here. As others have said, it loads immediately for me (tested on desktop + on mobile data + incognito) The entire site is cached + Cloudflare sits on top of everything. I just ran a couple performance tests under the current HN traffic (~120 concurrent visitors) and everything looks good, all loads under 1 second. The server is quite happy at an average load of 0.06 right now, not even close to start breaking a s…

My guess is your caching was misconfigured in some way. It's fast for me now, but before commenting I tried several times and it always took at least 10s to load, often more. Others have also reported very slow load times. I was surprised because I saw at the time that it was behind Cloudflare. Disclosure: I work for Cloudflare.

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Post by nucleative »

PaulKeeble wrote: post #59

Its not actually that hard to get your own server racked up in a data centre, I have done it. Since it was only one box that I built and installed at home I just shipped it and they racked it in the shared area and plugged the power and network in and gave me the IP address. It was cheaper than renting from someone like hetzner, was about £15 a month at the time for 1A and 5TB a month of traffic at 1gbps. Also had a…

We did this a lot in the early 2000's. At the time I worked for a company with offices in Bellevue and we put our own hardware in full sized racks at a datacenter in the komo4 building in Seattle.

Because of proximity it was easy to run over and service the systems physically if needed, and we also used modem based KVM systems if we really needed to reboot a locked up system quickly (not sure that ever actually happened!).

I'm sure customer owner hardware place in a datacenter rack is still a major business

Re: I took all my projects off the cloud, saving thousands of dollars

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Post by ascorbic »

wheybags wrote: post #146
rameerez wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP here. As others have said, it loads immediately for me (tested on desktop + on mobile data + incognito) The entire site is cached + Cloudflare sits on top of everything. I just ran a couple performance tests under the current HN traffic (~120 concurrent visitors) and everything looks good, all loads under 1 second. The server is quite happy at an average load of 0.06 right now, not even close to start breaking a s…

100% true, I've hit the front page of hn on a server with an old i5 (aka consumer hardware, and not even high end) with no cloudflare or similar caching, and had no problems. Computers are fast, and serving static html over https is a solved problem.

You're right that serving static files is easy, but OP is using WordPress, not static files.

Disclosure: I work for Cloudflare.

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