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MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by xrd »

adamcharnock wrote: post #99

We [0] use MinIO with for our clients so we've just thrown together a nightly build process. Use/fork as you wish: https://github.com/golithus/minio-builds Example use: docker run -p 9000:9000 -p 9001:9001 ghcr.io/golithus/minio:latest [0]: https://lithus.eu

If anyone is wondering, the Dockerfile for this repo (thanks for sharing!) basically just copies the binary in, it is a 19 line dockerfile.

I see both sides of the argument here, the people maintaining minio should not have to push docker images for free, it is work to maintain and test, especially across all the host platforms. And, this work isn't that complicated if you want to do it yourself.

https://github.com/golithus/minio-builds/blob/main/Dockerfil...

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by FooBarWidget »

s1mplicissimus wrote: post #135
mlrtime wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bad analogy, MinIO isn't a basic commodity required for life. Maybe a car analogy (because they hardly work). It's like lending your car to someone everyday then stopping, then the person complains that they have no way to get around. But there is walking, biking, busses or buying your own car.

I don't see how "basic commodity required for life" is a necessary criteria for any ethical standards to apply at all. This is about trust, community and how to be a good project steward.

Then will you be volunteering your time and resources? Remember: once you start volunteering, you cannot stop, because you will "break everyone's trust and expectations" or even be "malicious". Happy volunteering.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by ksajadi »

I think both sides of this argument are correct:

1. MinIO is a business and they don't owe anything to anyone for free. 2. People using the OSS version also are free to express their dissatisfaction.

This is not contract law though. This is about using OSS as a marketing gimmick to get mindshare, penetrate the market and then do a bait and switch.

From one hand, it is within their right to do whatever they want as marketing. From the other hand, we as the community should be more aware of OSS as marketing vs OSS as we would like to see it.

There is a damage to the community however: this erodes trust in OSS companies, so just like "content marketing" or "influencers" or any other type of marketing, after a while it loses its effectiveness, to the detriment of real "content", real "influence" and real "OSS".

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

#195

Post by rglullis »

mlrtime wrote: post #98
rglullis wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a 160TB minio cluster running for 4+ years who had dealt beautifully with node outages, one drive failure and the occassional hiccups on the datacenter. I was okay with not having support because I am not part of their customer base. I was okay with not having the webUI, though I wish they made an option where the webUI would be available for some basic-tier paid customers. But I can not be okay with this move…

What is the problem exactly you are facing now?

Right now, my problem is that I can not update my minio cluster because I do not know of any trustworthy docker image that I can use, and the version I am on is exposed to (at least) one known CVE.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by adamcharnock »

xrd wrote: post #191
adamcharnock wrote: post #99

We [0] use MinIO with for our clients so we've just thrown together a nightly build process. Use/fork as you wish: https://github.com/golithus/minio-builds Example use: docker run -p 9000:9000 -p 9001:9001 ghcr.io/golithus/minio:latest [0]: https://lithus.eu

If anyone is wondering, the Dockerfile for this repo (thanks for sharing!) basically just copies the binary in, it is a 19 line dockerfile. I see both sides of the argument here, the people maintaining minio should not have to push docker images for free, it is work to maintain and test, especially across all the host platforms. And, this work isn't that complicated if you want to do it yourself. https://github.com/g…

No problem!

And it is very true. Although the binary does also need building, which is also handled in the above actions workflow.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

#198

Post by johannes1234321 »

jamespo wrote: post #126
jphoward wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you not seen some of the replies at the link? For example: "You are joking ?! The commit about source only is 4 days old (9e49d5e) We are currently paying for a license while using the open source version, you already removed the oidc code from UI console and now docker images. We are not happy by this lock-in. We will discuss this internally, but you may loose a paying customer with this behavior."

Why would a paying customer use the open source version? Deployment in non-prod?

For one: Using open source version often is a lot simpler. Commercial versions are hidden behind authentication and other weird systems to download. User experience can be a lot better.

Then there are ideological reasons: Purposly trying to make the open source version sustainable.

And then reduced lockin etc. by not using Enterprise only features by accident/convenience, which leaves the door open to leave the contract.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

#199

Post by canto »

It's absolutely stunning that people actually defend this behaviour!

The community is having an outrage - and rightfully so - about a silently discontinued artifact delivery at a very critical time. Which is their opinion and every human being is entitled to have their own opinion and state it openly.

It is also perfectly fine to expect a standardised behaviour to continue.

However, what is most important is that is perfectly fine to shame an open source product for pulling features and money grabbing people after years of gathering community and locking them in.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

#200

Post by aendruk »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #192
s1mplicissimus wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how "basic commodity required for life" is a necessary criteria for any ethical standards to apply at all. This is about trust, community and how to be a good project steward.

Then will you be volunteering your time and resources? Remember: once you start volunteering, you cannot stop, because you will "break everyone's trust and expectations" or even be "malicious". Happy volunteering.

The claim isn’t that “you cannot stop”, but that it’s rude to not communicate about that ahead of time.

Of course the entitlement to volunteer work is also rude, and in my opinion worse.

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