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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by freeqaz »

0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

Use Aerospace for window management. No animations. No disabling of security. It just works. https://github.com/nikitabobko/AeroSpace

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by tverbeure »

theodric wrote: post #148
coldtea wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that useful as a heads up. MacOS is great for development. Tons of high profile devs, from Python and ML, to JS, Java, Go, Rust and more use it - the very people who headline major projects for those languages. 2ish hours battery life is crazy. It's 8+ hours with the average Macbook.

> It's 8+ hours with the average Macbook. Did I get a dud? I rarely get over 2.5

Yeah, you have a dud. Or you have some processing running in the background that's gobbling up all the energy.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by leakycap »

kmacdough wrote: post #184
leakycap wrote: post #152

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My MacBook M1 Pro w/ 441 cycles started doing a fun thing where if the battery gets under about 50% and you put it to sleep, the ONLY way to power on the device is to use the exact charger it came with. Higher powered Apple Studio Display PD, or even good 3rd party chargers, do not bring it back to life. This occurs even when the battery has 40-60% remaining if the laptop goes to sleep. Had a similar issue with my 20…

If it's dead or if it's low? In my experience a low-power charger will revive, you just must wait for it to hit enough SOC since it is effectively starting off the battery. This does take a while, but starting dead on a supply that can't guarantee enough power would be dumb.

My M1 Pro with 441 battery cycles won't power back on without the Apple charger it came with if I close the lid or put it to sleep and the battery isn't over 60%... something happens and the computer goes into a sleep state where the battery doesn't drain but no charger except the OG brings it back to life.

Even a Studio Display, which can provide more power than my M1 Pro can use, won't wake it from this state. Apple wants $300 for a replacement battery so I'll just buy a new MacBook at that price, but the charger situation doesn't bode well for M5 MacBook buyers who wonder why their Mac is dead one day (and they just need the exact charger the system wants, but Apple didn't provide it)

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by leakycap »

chrismorgan wrote: post #189
leakycap wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My MacBook M1 Pro w/ 441 cycles started doing a fun thing where if the battery gets under about 50% and you put it to sleep, the ONLY way to power on the device is to use the exact charger it came with. Higher powered Apple Studio Display PD, or even good 3rd party chargers, do not bring it back to life. This occurs even when the battery has 40-60% remaining if the laptop goes to sleep. Had a similar issue with my 20…

My dad had similar trouble with an M1 MacBook Pro that got a depleted battery. Two chargers he had wouldn’t work, but fortunately the Anki charger that I used for my laptop did work with one of the cables that I had (though not another). Once it got a little juice into it, then it was fine and he could switch back to his. But I think he was a bit more careful to avoid total depletion after that. In 2018 I had a phone…

Yes, I don't often let batteries deplete but the issue I'm having on my MacBooks is that they will "die" with plenty of charge (often 40-60% left). But the computer thinks it is at 0% and won't boot past the "plug me in!" screen with anything except the OG charger from the Apple box. As soon as you connect the OG charger, it boots automatically and you see 0% battery go to 40-60% battery. At this point, you can uplug the macbook and use it - as long as you don't put it to sleep. Obviously battery/power related, but the only fix is using the charger that says/does exactly what my MacBook wants. I wonder how Apple handles this on the M5.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by astrange »

coldtea wrote: post #92
sofixa wrote: post #64

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Docker works very weirdly (it's a desktop application you have to install that has usage restrictions in enterprise contexts, and it's inside a VM so some things don't work), or you have to use an alternative with similar restrictions (Podman, Rancher Desktop). The OS also has weird rough edges when used from the terminal - there are read-only parts, there are restrictions on loading libraries, multiple utilities com…

> The OS also has weird rough edges when used from the terminal - there are read-only parts, there are restrictions on loading libraries, multiple utilities come with very old versions or BSD versions with different flags than the GNU ones you might be used to coming from Linux, the package manager is pretty terrible. You use nix or brew (or something like MacPorts). And they are mighty fine. You shouldn't be concern…

IIRC many of the built-in tools were updated from FreeBSD in the last release, but they'd still be different from GNU.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by radley »

0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

Is there a HN bingo card? Because we always get a top comment for Linux user who tries Mac and decides they prefer Linux.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by kondro »

Just give me cellular in a MacBook Air already Apple if you want me to insta-buy! Bonus points for OLED.

Air’s don’t have to be just cheap. I want a thin and light premium laptop for walking around and a second Mac (of any type) for my desk.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by thewebguyd »

0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

> The window manager. I'm not a fan of all the animations and needing to gester between screens (and yes, I've been down the hotkeys rabbit hole). To install a 3rd party window manager, you need to disable some security setting because appearantly they work by injecting into the display manager and calling private APIs.

Specifically for this, there's Aerospace (https://github.com/nikitabobko/AeroSpace) which does not require disabling SIP, intentionally by the dev.

For using the vanilla macOS workspaces though, if you avoid using full screen apps (since those go to their on ephemeral workspace that you can't keybind for some stupid reason), if you create a fixed amount of workspaces you can bind keyboard shortcuts to switch to them. I have 5 set up, and use Ctrl+1/2/3/4/5 to switch between isntead of using gestures.

Apart from that, I use Raycast to set keybindings for opening specific applications. You can also bind apple shortcuts that you make.

Still not my favorite OS over Linux, but I've managed to make it work because I love the hardware, and outside of $dayjob I do professional photography and the adobe suite runs better here than even my insanely overspeced gaming machine on Windows.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by debunn »

SomeUserName432 wrote: post #111
coldtea wrote: post #84

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> I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. Sounds more like a you problem, probably due to unfamiliarity. There are endless options for local dev on a Mac, and a huge share of devs using one.

I've been on a mac for ~4 years now. It was a bit of a struggle to get used to it, coming from windows. The only thing I really miss now is alt-tab working as expected. (It's a massive pain to move between two windows of the same program)

As a hybrid macOS / Windows user (with 20+ years of Windows keyboard muscle memory), I found Karabiner Elements a godsend. You can import complex key modifications from community built scripts which will automatically remap things like Cmd+Tab to switch windows, as well as a number of other Windows hotkeys to MacOS equivalents (link below):

https://karabiner-elements.pqrs.org/

https://ke-complex-modifications.pqrs.org/?q=windows#windows...

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by eitally »

coffeecoders wrote: post #105

Wanted to see if it's worth upgrading from the M1 Pro, but I don't see the M5 Pro in the compare dropdown. https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/compare/

TBH, I have an M2 pro (personal) and an M4 Pro (work) and I have never been able to tell the different in day to day use. That said, the only really intensive workload I have is photography/videography batch post-processing and I haven't tested that on my work machine. I'm disappointed Apple hasn't published any benchmarks comparing M5 to various M4 (or M3) variants.
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