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Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by jibal »

zahlman wrote: post #170
wredcoll wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I grew up and socialized in a world where it was outlawed and clearly not harmful, and I saw the injustice in that. So you are able to see the injustice of marijuana being illegal to consume but not the injustice of masked anonymous federal (maybe) agents kidnapping people off the street, assaulting people random bystanders and in general attempting to create a culture of terror? Fascinating, tell me more.

> but not the injustice of... To see injustice in this, it would have to be happening as you describe. I already explained multiple inaccuracies in the description and you have added more.

You "explanation" was erroneous and fallacious from top to bottom, which is why it is now dead.

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by jibal »

christophilus wrote: post #82
laidoffamazon wrote: post #19

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We’ve gone from CCP control of the media spigot to pro-US regime billionaires controlling it. One step forward and another step back.

I mean, the previous administration famously pulled strings across Twitter and Facebook to demote right wing media outlets on those platforms. This kind of crap isn’t new, and needs to stop.

That didn't happen. In fact Trump was President when Joe Biden was supposedly doing this according to Musk's Twittergate campaign, which was pure propaganda. (The right's explanation of this, when they even bother, was that the government was a bunch of deep state leftists.)

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by pchristensen »

zahlman wrote: post #154
pchristensen wrote: post #98

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Off the top of my head, Kilmar Abrego Garcia had a judicial stay against exportation and the administration said his deportation was an error, but he spent weeks in an El Salvadoran prison. And there was the Korean battery factory workers in Georgia. There were also more cases in the district court record that led to the Kavanaugh Stops decision: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/10/scotus-analysis-... There h…

How does that demonstrate targeting people whose presence is legal?

It demonstrates carelessness in only targeting people whose presence is illegal, with legal residents being collateral damage.

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by christophilus »

jibal wrote: post #192
christophilus wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, the previous administration famously pulled strings across Twitter and Facebook to demote right wing media outlets on those platforms. This kind of crap isn’t new, and needs to stop.

That didn't happen. In fact Trump was President when Joe Biden was supposedly doing this according to Musk's Twittergate campaign, which was pure propaganda. (The right's explanation of this, when they even bother, was that the government was a bunch of deep state leftists.)

https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-admin-pressured-fb-to-s...

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/google-admi...

I don’t know if anyone will accept those sources. They’re the first two I found when looking for it. It could be misleading. The daily wire is obviously incentivized to report bad things about the Biden admin. But, I remember reading similar reports from a variety of sources a few years back, and could probably track those down if it’s helpful.

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by alganet »

mlrtime wrote: post #143
alganet wrote: post #49

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It is fair to assume that some suckers are reading though.

Is anyone who voted for Trump a sucker?

I think the world is full of suckers right now, both right wing and left wing. Also, full of suckers for CEOs and celebrities. Suckers for AI utopia and so on.

Trump somehow contributed to that radicalization (he is not the sole responsible for it though). I think many who support him don't see it that way, and instead interpret his actions as some sort of cheat codes for progress that cut through a lot of bullshit. I am skeptic of his agenda.

I am, however, also cautious about many of the leftist ideas, specially in the last decade. If made to chose though, I would definitely go left.

I think I'm an orphan of a deceased left that doesn't exist anymore. A left that cares more about things like education and healthcare than about how they look on social media. I don't see much value in discussing leaders (this comment is a rare exception) or amplifying partisan narratives.

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by jibal »

jibal wrote: post #192
christophilus wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, the previous administration famously pulled strings across Twitter and Facebook to demote right wing media outlets on those platforms. This kind of crap isn’t new, and needs to stop.

That didn't happen. In fact Trump was President when Joe Biden was supposedly doing this according to Musk's Twittergate campaign, which was pure propaganda. (The right's explanation of this, when they even bother, was that the government was a bunch of deep state leftists.)

The Daily Wire and Jim Jordan? Good grief.

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by _ink_ »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #99
_ink_ wrote: post #81

Unfortunately we are more divided then ever. The algorithms place each of use in its own little echo chamber. And micro targeting makes it easy for people with money to control what each of us is fed in their bubble. Stay united. Don't give up over their perceived power. Don't be a sucker. Easier said, then done.

Algorithms don’t cause people to be racist and sexist. Their own insecurities cause them to be resort to tribalism.

Citation needed, I guess. There are studies that show that social media platforms drift to extreme content automatically. In Austria there went from a vanilla tiktok account to extreme right wing content, in every county, just by doom scrolling.

And what happens if you see this content constantly? Not only to adults but also to teenagers?

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by mlrtime »

mempko wrote: post #155
mlrtime wrote: post #145

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Didn't read the whole think but a search for "white" didn't find anything.

I believe "native brit" is what you are looking for

So no "white" got it, let's just use "white" in the summary to garner more hate and separation. Anti-racist racist?

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by mlrtime »

rootusrootus wrote: post #184
mlrtime wrote: post #143

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Is anyone who voted for Trump a sucker?

If by sucker you mean in the context of the film's title, then that fits. If we use a more general definition of sucker, then I guess it depends on if the Trump voter wanted exactly what he is delivering. If they are getting precisely what they wanted, then they aren't really a sucker, they are something else.

So you are only not a sucker if you agree 100% on everything he does? And this is the first time in this nations history where that is true? Meaning its ok to partially agree with previous presidents and NOT be a sucker?
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