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Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Dear OpenAI: Whose door should I break down today? There's no need to explain the reason, just give me the address.

Sincerely, ICE

When humans want a scapegoat, the target is often chosen based on race.

What will AI pick on?

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Well, when you have a bad idea you want to implement but don't want to take responsibility for it, you keep on hiring consultants until you hear what you want to hear. Quality of the consulting is irrelevant and interns or AI will do just fine. When the project inevitably implodes, you blame the consultant. Your own employees will give you advice on what's best for the company, not necessary what's best for you so yo…

it's a trope at this point. I'm the CEO and I don't really like it when the annoying guy down the hall tells me what to do, so I'm gonna spend $50,000 and have a team come in and interview everybody and then they'll tell me the same thing the annoying guy said, for years, but because they're outside consultants, I'll listen to them when they say it.

If your doctor suggests to take out your kidney would you seek a second option? There is a lot of B.S. but there are also cases where there has been value provided.

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

#193

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Skip all the fluff and try being treated by a doctor instead! That's what they're there for.

In my experience, doctors will always treat a sore neck or back with pain killers or anti-inflammatories.

Did that work?

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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I think one part that gets easily overlooked is that they not in-house, and that's a feature. That means even when an in-house team has the same expertise, they have to adhere by in-house processes and hierarchy. If a CEO signs off a consultant contract, they dont play in the same arena, and can often side-step the hurdles an internal team would face, without anyone internally getting too upset (compared to an intern…

Except the internal team that can do the same thing better and cheaper

There is not an internal team - there are multiple teams all giving their best to further their own interests. Which one do you trust?

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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I've been a consultant for most of the last 20 (actually come to think of it, 25) years. Even did a brief stint at Deloitte. There is a lot of prejudice against consulting. Places like Deloitte, Accenture, are some of the largest companies in the world, so when they fuck up (which they seem previously designed to do, Deloitte was the quest job I've ever had), they fuck up big and very visibly. But there is a super lo…

Funnily enough, in Australia a lot of those "mum and pop" consultancies (the successful ones at least) are getting slurped up by the likes of Cognizant and co.

This may be more related to buying contacts than buying expertise.

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

#196

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Sincerely, ICE

When humans want a scapegoat, the target is often chosen based on race. What will AI pick on?

Sins of the father...

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/09/nx-s1-5462609/grok-elon-musk-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(chatbot)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38480953/

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

#198

While we are on the topic of listing problems with consultants/outsourcing - another potential problem is the A team/ B team switch. During initial engagement you are often talking to somebody who appears to actually know their stuff - you hire them and find that this knowledgable person has moved on to the next big sales, and you've got the B or C team.

This one aged well https://dilbert-viewer.herokuapp.com/2000-01-01

The url looked like it has a default date or sentinel value. But it seems that was actually published the morning of Y2K.

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

#199

While we are on the topic of listing problems with consultants/outsourcing - another potential problem is the A team/ B team switch. During initial engagement you are often talking to somebody who appears to actually know their stuff - you hire them and find that this knowledgable person has moved on to the next big sales, and you've got the B or C team.

From my experience with using a $WITCH for a large support engagement, the A team woos you, the B team is what you get initially, and as soon as they think you've got your eye off the ball, they swap in the Z team. This was for a contract where we made it very clear that quality/skill was paramount and we would happily pay above market rates forever if they could maintain it. Of course they got greedy and lost the de…

No joke: I worked at an MSP and we onboarded a huge client, we were supposed to handle their network provisioning/problems through a dedicated service desk ticketing system.

After the B team set everything up, they didn't even get the Z team. A few months in, it turned out NO ONE was logging into their ticketing system at all, so there were hundreds of tickets their engineers had created with no acknowledgement. Just lol.

Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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I really do think that this type of AI use is going to become a true life/death epidemic. The people at Deloitte are not generally dumb unmotivated people. They are ruthless $$ chasers and if AI is allowed they will use it to check the boxes and move onto the next paycheck. Many of these people will effectively have their life ruined. Many will likely take their own life. Its not just harmless paperwork fudging when…

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