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Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Agreed. Who in good conscience would use a site where the owner regularly posts hateful, trivially-debunked BS?

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1970336290148434391

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1969087195798475263

https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1971546061169987846

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Wait a second, if you’re saying that this is not a feature of good activism, are you implying you are more convinced by activists who practice dogma over objective thinking? What is a scientist to do when they discover a vaccine or cure for something; say fuck it who cares if we change behavior? Are you saying a good vaccine advocate is someone who ignores the underlying science and acts dogmatically? It just feels l…

I have yet to observe an activist practice objective thinking. That was the root of the argument. Activists sometimes do back the correct argument, but not because they are practising scientific reasoning. Most activists are swayed by rhetoric, a good story. That's an emotional response, not a logical one. To answer your second point, science has a process for disseminating new findings. It's not perfect, but it work…

> I have yet to observe an activist practice objective thinking

It would be a sampling bias fallacy to draw conclusions based on your lack of observations.

Eg: "mountains, never seen them, they don't exist."

It is funny then for a geologist to be considered an activist when they say the mountains most certainly do exist.

Your first paragraph is unfounded. (Fwiw, The other two I found interesting. )

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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It would be nice if scientists started being just scientists again instead of activists. Hopefully being cloistered on bluesky will bring the old vibes back

Exact opposite. Science is under attack by politics and we need authoritative voices explaining how dangerous this is. Why would scientists not be allowed to offer opinions on their observations? That's basically the same thing as science.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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This and the recent HN entry on "open social" smells to me like an astroturfing campaign from BlueSky.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45388021

Protip: BlueSky is "decentralized" only in name. Don't. With all their drawbacks, ActivityPub and Nostr are way better.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

#196
Most likely this is due to political bias of the group that was surveyed [1]. Liberals in general dislike X because of the owner. It's the same reason that the average Hacker News reader favors Bluesky over X.

[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-022-01382-3

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Saying "you can google it" when the range of online information is massive is not a helpful thing to say. What numbers are you believing and why? Nate Silver has basically zero juice on Bluesky, people go there to get away from that sort of "expert" that's got a huge profile already but is hard to escape if you are uninterested in his takes. I mean he'll, take his own word on it, it's not the social network for him!…

What does it matter how much "juice" he has on Bluesky? The numbers are the numbers.

His numbers may be bad because people on the website don't like him, not because of something inherent about bsky (other than better taste)

Plenty of big accounts have anecdotally said they have much better engagement on bsky than twitter

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Oh, at least here in Brazil, people still find it strange if you say you don't have an Instagram account. There's this idea of being a bit weird for not following this trend.

Brazil is an exception, though! Did you know we are the third country in the world with the largest number of Instagram users? [0] Social media is very cultural here, so I'm not sure that we are representative of a larger trend in social media acceptance worldwide. [0]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/578364/countries-with-mo...

Not surprised given the high cultural pressure for vanity there.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Sharply declining usage? I don't see the stats to back that up on https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats Usage has absolutely declined from peak switching periods where inevitibly some users won't stick around, but that's to be expected. Most stats seem to be leveling off (which isn't exactly stable growth either so the rest of your points stand).

Yeah, I think what you needed to do here is zoom out. That's a sharply declining chart. I understand that as a Bluesky user the peak and dropoff doesn't hurt the experience. But investors are going to put money in with the expectation of a return and what they're going to look at are the derivatives of the adoption curve: how quickly is it gaining users, and is adoption accelerating?

Why does anyone need to invest at all? Why can't Jack Dorsey just run it instead of needing it be a hockey stick start up?

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

#200

If only Bluesky could be as decentralised as the Fediverse [0] Trading one corporate overlord for another is not the smartest play. [0] https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/

Opening an account on Mastodon was a pain even for me, a long-time Internet user and a nerd. I'm confronted with a choice of servers, but if I love cheese and golf, do I open my account on the cheese server or the golf server? What will be the disadvantages of choosing one over the other? Instant blocker right in the sign up process that made me actually give up several times. If it was like that for me, imagine how…

As for another data point, opening a Mastodon account for me was as trivial as choosing one random link from a webpage, choosing a username, password, and entering my email. If you get frozen on the choice of instance, that has more to do with your mental process than with an effective difficulty for the average user.

If you really cannot go beyond your inclination, and since you are a a long-time Internet user and a nerd, why not host your own instance?

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