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Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by PaulHoule »

in_cahoots wrote: post #151
doodaddy wrote: post #84

As an Olympus shooter this is good to know. But good gravy that troubleshooting path got expensive real fast. Replacing the laptop and the camera? Why not start by trying something other than Photos? It doesn’t even need to be a paid product; the Olympus software is free not to mention a good baseline since it - of all the applications - should be able to import photos without corrupting them. Edit to add: delete on…

Yeah, after you've had this problem once it seems you'd uncheck delete after import before buying a literally entirely new photography system.

My workflow is don't delete after import but format the card in the camera afterwards. I have XXXL cards and it is not such a problem if I forget to format.

I had one case where I screwed up a shoot and thought file corruption might have been involved (it wasn't) Even though I had formatted the card with the camera and shot maybe 5 test shots I was able to recover most of the images with Disk Drill

https://www.cleverfiles.com/data-recovery-software.html

which has both Windows and Mac versions and looking at a sample of them confirmed it wasn't corruption, it was user error.

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by ninju »

tpurves wrote: post #174
deviation wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to hand wave-- but this feels industry standard IMO. I have a dozen PRs sitting unacknowledged and stale across a handful of FAANG (and other) repos, including Apple's. I start my first day @ Apple in a few weeks, so I ACK that my opinion might be a little biased here.

Did you take a job at Apple just so you can accept one or more of those PR's that's been bugging you? :) Wasn't there an xkcd about that scenario...

Just gotta be careful...

https://xkcd.com/1739/

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by loeg »

deviation wrote: post #12

It seems to be an import pipeline bug. Photos does a lot of extra work on import (merging RAW+JPEG pairs, generating previews, database indexing, optional deletion), so my guess is a concurrency bug where a buffer gets reused or a file handle is closed before the copy finishes. Rare, nondeterministic corruption fits the profile.

Maybe bad RAM flipping bits?

Edit: Nevermind, the contents are vastly changed. This is like a different stream of input got used, or a buffer was written over with contents from another image.

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by raincole »

jm4 wrote: post #178
ffsm8 wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were also active participants in prism... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM What they actually do is a moderate effort to keep app developers from accessing user data. Which is definitely good! Though the reason for this likely more about keeping the customer relationship with apple then actually protecting the privacy of users, but it's a nicely marketable side effect - and that's definitely a good thing fo…

Anybody who was anybody back then was an active participant in PRISM. There are no good guys and bad guys when it comes to that. There are businesses that get to keep doing business by doing what the government tells them to do, there are ones that shut down (Lavabit), and there are ones that don't have enough going on to be on the radar for a project like PRISM.

When China does that they're the bad guys. When the US does that there are no good guys or bad guys.

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by JadeNB »

potatoproduct wrote: post #182
myshkin5 wrote: post #117

I’m a fan of the whole Apple ecosystem but I have to say that there’s a pattern here. Apple does a decent job of keeping my data safe from others but a terrible job of keeping it intact. From music libraries with song titles that got switched to long integers to this (and I’m sure more that I’m not remembering atm) they need to do a better job here. Sure security is important but integrity is too.

I got burned by Apple purposely corrupting my music library. I'm still salty about it.

Purposely? Could you elaborate?

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by jrajav »

anal_reactor wrote: post #138
sholladay wrote: post #67

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There is a very popular professional audio website called Gearspace that had a much spicier name for a long, long time. https://gearspace.com/ https://www.reddit.com/r/audioengineering/comments/mftc0g/ge...

I guess the reason why modern times feel so bland is because we all agree on the lowest common denominator, and then celebrate that as "iNcLuSiViTy". If anything you do has any personality, aka deviates from the standard workflow, it immediately gets a disadvantaged position on the free market. It's like, we collectively prioritize efficiency over fun and then we wonder why life is not fun even though it is efficient…

Dumb frat-boy innuendos count as personality now, huh?

Let's just leave aside the fact that the name genuinely made many people uncomfortable and unwelcome there (it did), it was also just teenage and immature. There's ways to inject personality and fun into a social experience without giggling about sex. Talk about lowest common denominator...

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by viridian »

jm4 wrote: post #178
ffsm8 wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were also active participants in prism... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM What they actually do is a moderate effort to keep app developers from accessing user data. Which is definitely good! Though the reason for this likely more about keeping the customer relationship with apple then actually protecting the privacy of users, but it's a nicely marketable side effect - and that's definitely a good thing fo…

Anybody who was anybody back then was an active participant in PRISM. There are no good guys and bad guys when it comes to that. There are businesses that get to keep doing business by doing what the government tells them to do, there are ones that shut down (Lavabit), and there are ones that don't have enough going on to be on the radar for a project like PRISM.

This is like saying there are no good guys or bad guys in the mafia, because the good guys all got taken out early on.

What you are then left with are bad guys.

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by SoftTalker »

darkwater wrote: post #190
SoftTalker wrote: post #155

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I'm decades away from being a small child and I can't remember these gestures. The only time I get screenshots or activate emergency mode on my phone is accidentally. Of course I also don't expect my phone to be able to help me much in an emergency.

Well, not an Apple fan personally but on this they are just top of class. Even if this story involves an Apple Watch and not an iPhone, my father-in-law some time ago fainted (due to an underlying heart issue we late uncovered), knocked his head on the toilet when he got up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom. He lost consciousness for a brief moment and when he regained it, there was already someone fro…

My phone is off at night and I don't have a watch. I try not to let these huge companies FUD me into thinking that I appreciably change my odds of surviving an accident by buying their technology, but I get that others see it differently.

Re: Apple Photos app corrupts images

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Post by anon1395 »

yard2010 wrote: post #180

> Turns out “delete after import” was a huge mistake. I learned the hard way to never delete photos from the SD. Just buy a new one it's so cheap anyway. Great article by the way, sounds like my kind of rabbit hole :)

> Just buy a new one it's so cheap anyway

Not a good idea, you are going to have piles and piles of SD cards that will be hard to manage, and you will burn through $$$.

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