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Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017
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Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
They haven’t released anything decent since the Model 3, which was a massive success. It’s baffling to me that they’re now betting the company on robotics, rather than improving and extending their existing lineup of cars.
The model Y is the best selling car in the world, so this statement doesn't really make sense
No, it’s not anymore.
Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017
#193Boring lineup, Lack of recent innovation, poor repairability and a CEO who has alienated people on both sides of the political isle. The 1 trillion dollar package the board is offering Musk is a joke. They need to find a new CEO.
I low key have a conspiracy theory that the "1 trillion dollar pay package" is just Tesla PR fluff - smoke and mirrors to steal attention away from the poorly performing cybertruck sales and falling stock. If they spin news with dramatic flair highlighting Musk’s bonkers pay package it's a distraction from Tesla’s more immediate and tangible troubles, political alienation of their buyers and ongoing regulatory and ma…
Hiding the cyberflop is much easier than explaining why they have monitors riding in robotaxis while Waymo works
Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Keep in mind that these things will be built in Japan and imported. I’m sure Tesla could’ve figured out some way to have an offering the same price or cheaper. Seeing US salaries and the strength of the US dollar (and the weakness of the yen right now!)... I wonder. At one point I don't know how you can be competitive with factories abroad. This is where protectionism comes in I guess!
Why not produce abroad? Tesla has factories in China after all
Oh sure, yeah. My reading of GP's post was that somehow they could pull it off in the US but I must have misread.
I have no dog in this fight, I trust "normal" car companies for my car needs.
Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017
#195Battery prices have dropped so much over the past ten years. So I don’t understand why they can’t make a cheaper vehicle. At some point EVs should be way cheaper than ICE vehicles.
People are tripping over each other to pay $60k for suvs and trucks. There’s no incentive for smaller or cheaper cars as long as people are happy paying current premium prices.
Ford maverick has waitlists. Small and around 30k
Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017
#196Battery prices have dropped so much over the past ten years. So I don’t understand why they can’t make a cheaper vehicle. At some point EVs should be way cheaper than ICE vehicles.
Musk has said he didn't see a market or need for an affordable car, so any reduction in battery cost is just profit for them
What he actually thinks is that autonomous vehicles would collapse the car market. That's why he things that.
So literally he killed the affordable 'Model 2' because self driving would destroy 80% of the market and if that was true there wasn't demand.
So he decided to only focus on 'RoboTaxi'.
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#197There is a lot of discussion of the brand being hurt, but I will say that personally I just don't want a new car period and Tesla specifically in large part because of privacy concerns. My understanding it that Tesla is one of the worst offenders in a group of massively offensive (to privacy) options. Are there actually privacy preserving options left in the market at all and in the EV market specifically? If Tesla p…
The Slate truck might be the only one to have less digital tracking just due to how they are skipping so many electronic bells and whistles to keep costs in the $20k range.
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
This. None of them make me go "Damn, that's a good looking car..." any more than a number of others. The Cybertruck is just am embarrassment, design wise.
I wonder if the politics will impact the designs in the long run, as Tesla becomes a less desirable place to work
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Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017
#199Boring lineup, Lack of recent innovation, poor repairability and a CEO who has alienated people on both sides of the political isle. The 1 trillion dollar package the board is offering Musk is a joke. They need to find a new CEO.
They were coasting for a while on false promises of self-driving abilities by "the end of this year" every year and consumers have finally caught on that Tesla's not trustworthy about such claims.
Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017
#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
They haven’t released anything decent since the Model 3, which was a massive success. It’s baffling to me that they’re now betting the company on robotics, rather than improving and extending their existing lineup of cars.
I know the Cybertruck as a "release" is stretching it, but it technically did release. Prematurely, 100%. But it's out there. The QC on the Cybertruck pretty much shows why they lost their brand power over the years, though. Even when ignoring the politics.
The cybertruck cleared “released”, what it failed is “decent”.
> The QC
Was never Tesla’s forte.