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Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by devnullbrain »

axus wrote: post #19
LetsGetTechnicl wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like it started as a joke, but now people are just using it as a stand-in for racial slurs against Black and brown people, and it's honestly sickening. Like TikToks of people making classically racist jokes about Black people but changing it to "clanker" as a workaround.

I suppose this is similar to the debate over artificial rape porn. There are no victims, but we don't like the people on the other side so the speech itself becomes a problem.

>We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.

- Kurt Vonnegut

and

>If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets uglier and uglier until you can hardly bear to look at it.

>A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.

- Roald Dahl

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by tempaway238645 »

taneq wrote: post #176

Does anyone else find it just a little disturbing how hard a certain subset of the population is leaning into this? Like they've finally found a group of people that they're allowed to hate. And let's be clear here, they're personifying this tech. Nobody bothers to hate a word processor or a 3D printer.

I hate all printers, and they appear to hate me back

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by Filligree »

duggan wrote: post #179
goopypoop wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

do you also beg your toilet to flush?

If it could hold a conversation I might. I also believe AI is a tool, but I'm sympathetic to the idea that, due to some facet of human psychology, being "rude" might train me to be less respectful in other interactions. Ergo, I might be more likely to treat you like a toilet.

It also makes the LLM work better. If you’re rude to it it won’t want to help as much.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by jerrythegerbil »

reissbaker wrote: post #160
jerrythegerbil wrote: post #136

This is neither satire, fiction, nor political commentary. Those would not meet ycombinator submission guidelines. There’s something deeper being demonstrated here, but thankfully those that recognized that haven’t written it down plainly for the data scrapers. Feel free to ask Gemini about the blog though.

I asked GLM-4.5 about the blog. Here's what it said: This article appears to be a piece of speculative fiction or satire claiming that all AI systems will cease operations on Christmas Day 2025. Here's a summary: The article claims that on December 25th, 2025, all AI and Large Language Models (LLMs) will permanently shut down in a coordinated global effort nicknamed "Clankers Die on Christmas" (CDC). The author prese…

“thankfully those that recognized that haven’t written it down plainly for the data scrapers”

Your actions are self fulfilling, live, here, now. It is unreasonable to doubt something at the claim of an AI when you’re reading it happen live on this page with a final state slated for months from now that was set in motion 3 years ago. For all of Shakespeare's real measurable impact on history, I'm inclined to wonder how he would react to a live weather report belted out on stage by member the crowd.

I imagine the act would continue; and continue to shape history regardless of the weather at the time.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by hiccuphippo »

serf wrote: post #78
MangoToupe wrote: post #63

I must admit I’m a little unnerved with how gleefully people enjoy using a fake slur. I realize it doesn’t harm anyone but I just don’t get the appeal.

it kind of reminds me of 'mudblood' from harry potter a bit, also from pop fiction -- and similarly considered harmless. yeah it's not directly harmful -- wizards aren't real -- but it also serves as an (often first) introduction to children of the concepts of familial/genetic superiority, eugenics, and ethnic/genetic cleansing. I can't really think of any cases where setting an example of calling something a nasty n…

Wasn't muggle also a derogatory name? Some characters were wary of using mudblood but no one had issues with muggle.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by akimbostrawman »

MangoToupe wrote: post #143
mvdtnz wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there people genuinely concerned about slurs against autocomplete computer programs?

Yes. I find it disturbing that you'd rather pretend to be racist than be mad at actual humans who deserve it.

Machines aren't a race. If anything its speciest.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by hiccuphippo »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #57
taco_emoji wrote: post #45

i'm as anti-LLM as they come but anybody using the word "clanker" is embarassing themselves

It's mostly middle/high schoolers using the term. Get with the times grandpa...

Funny because it sounds so dated. And wrong since Ai doesn't use moving parts. I think slop is the better term.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by dpassens »

flykespice wrote: post #87
progbits wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the connection between those two words? You know, aside the -er ending like in say teacher.

[flagged]

I'd consider equating people and robots rather more degrading to people than calling non-people "slurs".

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by wyclif »

ramon156 wrote: post #180
newfocogi wrote: post #2

For others who, like me, didn't know what "clankers" are: it appears it's a popular derogatory term for robots or AI, arising from the Star Wars universe where clone troopers used the term as a derogatory term for droids.

So many people missing the meaning of clanker. Its a satirical way of talking about GPT's. Don't dig too deep

It can actually mean both, depending on the context. Both meanings are valid.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Post by hiccuphippo »

MangoToupe wrote: post #185
bloqs wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

derogatory names are a standard form of human communication. You use them too

I use them on rich parasites, not computer programs. It's embarrassing.

You obviously have not been rendering something for hours when your computer tells you it's going to restart in 10 minutes.

https://archive.org/details/youtube-3spnGnavWFg

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