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Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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> We all know about opiates No, I do not think we do, because it causes none of the side-effects associated with NSAIDs, and it is even safer than acetaminophen, i.e. there is no risk of hepatotoxicity whatsoever. The only side-effect is euphoria. Please do not mention respiratory depression here, that is a non-issue, it matters as so much as liver failure matters with acetaminophen overdoses. Opiates are safer than…

They do cause constipation

The silent killer

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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ugh, i am allergic to ibuprofen and aspirin (all NSAIDs to be precise). tylenol is my only OTC option.

You’re not going to become autistic all of sudden after taking Tylenol. The claim is that it effects the fetus during pregnancy

And the claim is probably bogus. If it were true, we'd expect other evidence (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45147119) that hasn't showed up. More likely, it's an artefact of autism diagnosis rates varying in different populations, and maybe something to do with autistic mothers' fucky pain tolerances.

More likely to take painkillers + more likely to get your child assessed for autism = observed (tiny) correlation, even in the absence of any causation.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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There is research correlating autism and mothers taking certain medications (painkillers, antidepressants). Since autism is hereditary, there is a significant chance that these mothers are autistic too. Autistic people have a vastly high risk of depression, and often have unusual pain thresholds, requiring more painkillers. I would not be surprised of the correlation was real, but the direction of action was reversed…

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Sure it can. Type 2 diabetes is both hereditary and lifestyle/behavioral influenced . Same with cancer, if you have cancer in your family your risk of getting cancer is higher. I would say most medical issues are both. Heart disease, gout, obesity, hypertension,strokes,asthma etc.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Stresses the liver, also if its used frequently for mild inconveniences you should maybe go to the doctor, as frequent headaches or stuff like that can hint to more severe stuff.

What makes you think people who take a painkiller for chronic pain generally don't report it to their doctor?

1. A lot of people won't go to a doctor in the united states

2. They may be so used to pain they don't think to mention it.

3. A lot of people lie to their doctors for one reason or another.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Yeah my wife is also pregnant and sometimes it is really tough on her but she doesn't use any medication other than baby aspirin for blood pressure. The alternative is exercise, anti-inflammatory foods, and also realizing that it isn't just your body anymore and you can't hurt somebody else's chances for a very small amount of pain relief.

> Yeah my wife is also pregnant and sometimes it is really tough on her but she doesn't use any medication other than baby aspirin for blood pressure. The alternative is exercise, anti-inflammatory foods, and also realizing that it isn't just your body anymore and you can't hurt somebody else's chances for a very small amount of pain relief. It very much is still your wife's body - what other sentient entity is avail…

This is doctor prescribed. It is an extremely low dose. https://www.acog.org/clinical/clinical-guidance/committee-op...

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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There really are risks. It's just not worth it during pregnancy. The pain killing effects of tylenol aren't worth the potential risks during pregnancy. https://www.mountsinai.org/about/newsroom/2025/mount-sinai-s...

There are also real risks to ignoring pain and the destructive effects it has to quality of life and mental well being, all of which can have effects on the mother's and the fetus's health. What is a pregnant person with debilitating pain such as a migraine supposed to do?

As I clarified in another comment, I was talking about avoiding it for common aches and pains. In cases of real migraines, I would be very grateful if tylenol gave any real relief. It never did for me.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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There is research correlating autism and mothers taking certain medications (painkillers, antidepressants). Since autism is hereditary, there is a significant chance that these mothers are autistic too. Autistic people have a vastly high risk of depression, and often have unusual pain thresholds, requiring more painkillers. I would not be surprised of the correlation was real, but the direction of action was reversed…

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> there is no evidence of gene expression for autism.

The fact that we haven't identified candidate genes for autism and a bunch of other mental health issues doesn't mean these aren't hereditary or have hereditary triggers that make outbreaks easier.

> if anything it is epigenetic caused by environmental pollutants and hormone exposure

Doubtful. The difference to older times is, we now properly diagnose mental health issues instead of just labeling affected people as "loons", locking them away in institutions or, like it happened with witch-burnings and in the NS Aktion T4, outright murder them.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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It is the safest painkiller currently available. Ibuprofen can cause gut bleeding and renal issues if overdosed on. We all know about opiates. Some facts - typical adult dose is 1g. Max suggested cap on the drug label is 3g per day (about 6 pills at usual 500mg dose). You need to take 10g (20 pills) to be at real risk of hepatotoxicity. So 10 times the typical dose is when you have overdose effects. (basically 20 pil…

> We all know about opiates No, I do not think we do, because it causes none of the side-effects associated with NSAIDs, and it is even safer than acetaminophen, i.e. there is no risk of hepatotoxicity whatsoever. The only side-effect is euphoria. Please do not mention respiratory depression here, that is a non-issue, it matters as so much as liver failure matters with acetaminophen overdoses. Opiates are safer than…

"...the problem is with impure products and people misusing / abusing them."

That second part "people misusing/abusing them" is a lot bigger than you're letting on. People can get hooked on opiates easily - a quick trip to Wikipedia turns up: "Long-term opioid use occurs in about 4% of people following their use for trauma or surgery-related pain" [1]. That's a pretty big knock-on effect! If you're prescribed opiates you're rolling the dice, and if you have the right mix of brain chemistry and genetics, you might be screwed.

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30063596/

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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It is the safest painkiller currently available. Ibuprofen can cause gut bleeding and renal issues if overdosed on. We all know about opiates. Some facts - typical adult dose is 1g. Max suggested cap on the drug label is 3g per day (about 6 pills at usual 500mg dose). You need to take 10g (20 pills) to be at real risk of hepatotoxicity. So 10 times the typical dose is when you have overdose effects. (basically 20 pil…

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I feel like I might be stepping on a land mine here, but it’s important to note that even if they don’t prevent transmission, vaccines are important for reducing severity and length of illness and have value as a second line of defense, even for those wearing N95’s in high risk circumstances (such as air travel).

Research to develop more effective countermeasures should continue of course, precisely because current vaccines aren’t a full solution. I keep hoping to hear good news about those inhaled vaccines that’ve been in development.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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They do cause constipation

The silent killer

I would say it is not so silent, bowel obstruction is very painful which you feel even if you are on opiates. In any case, I hope my other comment proves to be helpful to those taking opiates if they do not already know what to do or pay attention to.
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