Nothing shocking, Musk doesn't stand for free speech, neither does Erdogan.
Actually no president does.
Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate
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#192> We don't have solid proof but These shadowban stories are so often just hearsay and anecdotes from random users just feeding weird conspiracy vibes. Never go on a user saying they don't see something, there's too many variables in the mix from their usage patterns to sure, actual weird Elon/X algorithm tweaks at play.
That Xitter uses a complex, opaque algorithm, is why it should be banned in the first place.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
Decentralized socials haven't found a great way to generate informational bandwidth comparable to peak Twitter. Twitter demographic is thoroughly desensitized with data bandwidth and will not move to alternatives that don't offer current Twitter even though it's nowhere near the rosy peak.
Twitter has 611 million monthly active users. More than 245 million people worldwide use Twitter daily. 64.14% of Twitter users are men, while 35.86% are Women. Most of Twitter’s audience (36.6%) belongs to the 25-34 age group. With 103.96 million users, the United States has the highest number of Twitter users. Twitter users in the United States spend an average of 34 minutes and 6 seconds daily. Twitter generated a…
Those don't look like great numbers, both in each numbers itself as choice of numbers to me - those means US fraction is declining, women is likely now majority, userbase is aging, etc. Time spent for US users seems to be also much worse than other countries, like hours shorter than many developed countries.
Also, my original comment was about bandwidth, and you tried to defend Twitter by user retention figures. Which, to me, somewhat implies that Twitter is not getting the UGC it wants, and the real trends on it is going opposite of directions you desire for whoever you would be.
I'm not sure what positive things to say to whoever inclined to defend the choices it makes, with what happened here. It looks like they are just getting started with the downhill ride.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reddit is terribly corrupted by something , but I don't think it's communism or socialism. Proof by contradiction: communists and socialists are very strong advocates for punching everyone they think are Nazis, but if you ever hint at that on Reddit (especially as your first comment), or you call Elon or Trump a Nazi, you'll be banned. Identical to X, it's a platform that pushes what the corporate overlords want you…
Which subreddits are you talking about? 'Cause I'm pretty certain calling anyone a Nazi with zero discretion is a sign you're "normal" on Reddit, almost as if it were a purity test.
Site-wide bans.
Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate
#195Misleading title. There is no proof at all, just speculation in this post. From the last paragraph: "We don’t have solid proof, but it strongly suggests that X is secretly shadow banning İmamoğlu. I don’t think Elon Musk will change this, but I’m writing this article to show the political power he holds."
There is proof, people have had their likes and retweets removed from the presidential candidates x account on multiple cases.
Also, most of the accounts tweets only have around 200k impressions, which is much lower than what the old x account(which was banned by the government) used to get.
Also another point, erdogans government is so intolerant of seeing the presidential candidate is that they've literally took down banners and posters that mention anything about him. It is "illegal" to have a banner ad that has the text "Ekrem İmamoğlu" or a photo showing İmamoğlu. Do you really think a government that goes to such extremes won't try and persuade Twitter to shadowban the presidential candidate's x account?
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#196They have to follow the law of the country as tyrannical as it is like they did in Brazil. I hope one day they say fuck it.
Turkey has a law requiring social networks to shadowban opposition-party candidates?
Not officially but they definitely requested twitter to shadowban the opposition candidate
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Decentralized socials haven't found a great way to generate informational bandwidth comparable to peak Twitter. Twitter demographic is thoroughly desensitized with data bandwidth and will not move to alternatives that don't offer current Twitter even though it's nowhere near the rosy peak.
> comparable to peak Twitter This is an unnecessarily high bar. Otherwise Mastodon works fine and won't be enshittified.
It probably always was, even for Twitter itself. Peak Twitter was feeding hundreds to thousand tweets/minutes that lead to formation of its core user culture. It likely wasn't sustainable considering the official iOS app never implemented it. But expectations stay once an indulgence normalizes.
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Elon fights UK, Brazil, Australia, Germany, and other democracies Care to share the sources that Elon fought those countries? Because the Wikipedia list of Twitter censorship shows that X complied with the majority requests from those countries.
Elon Musk stirred the pot in the UK during the summer riots of 2024 posting on twitter: > civil war is inevitable as the owner of a key media platform in the world that sort of statement is indefensible. He's also picked a side in Germany by weighing in with as much support as possible for AfD. Don't pick this as a hill to die on, that man isn't worth it.
>Don't pick this as a hill to die on, that man isn't worth it.
What are you talking about? Are you making up strawmen?
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
Elon Musk stirred the pot in the UK during the summer riots of 2024 posting on twitter: > civil war is inevitable as the owner of a key media platform in the world that sort of statement is indefensible. He's also picked a side in Germany by weighing in with as much support as possible for AfD. Don't pick this as a hill to die on, that man isn't worth it.
>Don't pick this as a hill to die on, that man isn't worth it. What are you talking about? Are you making up strawmen?
Im saying he's not worthy of defending. Its clear that he intends to wield his fortune to enact political change.
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Elon fights UK, Brazil, Australia, Germany, and other democracies Care to share the sources that Elon fought those countries? Because the Wikipedia list of Twitter censorship shows that X complied with the majority requests from those countries.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1811783320839008381 """ The European Commission offered an illegal secret deal: if we quietly censored speech without telling anyone, they would not fine us. The other platforms accepted that deal. X did not. """
And as we all know, Elon is physically unable to lie. Of course there's no actual evidence for this "illegal secret deal".
-- sent from the front seat of my FSD-based unmanned Robotaxi