So what's the best portable emulation device that connects to HDMI too?
Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility
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Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility
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It renders at 1080p and the dock doesn't get as hot. Note that the cooling fan inside the dock is for cooling the dock and not the Switch 2 itself. The Switch 2 has its own fan for that. So while not everyone docks the Switch 2 to a 4K display, the Switch 2 dock must support that.
DP -> HDMI conversion hardware is pretty intense. I haven't owned a device that does this and doesn't at least get warm.
It's not. Every USB-C to HDMI cable in existence is a DisplayPort alt-mode cable with a DP to HDMI converter at the end. They don't require active cooling, even if they get a little warm.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility
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DP -> HDMI conversion hardware is pretty intense. I haven't owned a device that does this and doesn't at least get warm.
> DP -> HDMI conversion hardware is pretty intense. It can be, but it doesn't have to be. DisplayPort is mostly a superset of HDMI, with different voltage levels. Going from HDMI to DisplayPort is much harder than going from DisplayPort to HDMI, though the hardware to do this is apparently much cheaper than it used to be, which is nice to see. DisplayPort to HDMI only requires level shifting, as I understand it. I'm…
This is not true, DisplayPort and HDMI is not compatible, but the dedicated converter chips are quite efficient at their job. One is present inside every USB-C to HDMI cable, dongle or dock, as there is no such thing as USB-C HDMI alt-mode. Heck, even laptop HDMI ports are usually implemented through a DP converter.
You might be thinking of DisplayPort++, which is a special port supporting both DisplayPort and HDMI, allowing passive adapters. This is not available in the USB-C DisplayPort AltMode.
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While technically true, there's no devices that do HDMI protocol over USB-C. Most USB-C adapters to HDMI have a built-in DP > HDMI converter. There was a standard for HDMI over USB, but no devices used it and it died: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/01/hdmi-to-usb-c-spec-a... Pretty sure the Switch (1) Dock used a similar HDMI adapter. Even the PS4 had a DP > HDMI adapter internally for some reason.
DP has a HDMI compatibility mode that allows a DP output to output a HDMI signal, but at the wrong voltage. The external adapters are just level shifters to bring the signal voltages into compliance with HDMI, but their entirety passive devices. > Even the PS4 had a DP > HDMI adapter internally for some reason. DP is far more than just an external display protocol. Its biggest use case is internal display signals, so…
> DP has a HDMI compatibility mode that allows a DP output to output a HDMI signal, but at the wrong voltage. The external adapters are just level shifters to bring the signal voltages into compliance with HDMI, but their entirety passive devices.
That's DP++, which is not supported on all DP outputs, and notably is not supported by the USB-C DP AltMode.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility
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DP has a HDMI compatibility mode that allows a DP output to output a HDMI signal, but at the wrong voltage. The external adapters are just level shifters to bring the signal voltages into compliance with HDMI, but their entirety passive devices. > Even the PS4 had a DP > HDMI adapter internally for some reason. DP is far more than just an external display protocol. Its biggest use case is internal display signals, so…
> DP has a HDMI compatibility mode that allows a DP output to output a HDMI signal, but at the wrong voltage. The external adapters are just level shifters to bring the signal voltages into compliance with HDMI, but their entirety passive devices. That's DP++, which is not supported on all DP outputs, and notably is not supported by the USB-C DP AltMode.
DP++ seemed to work fine on my Samsung S24 phone when I tried it after seeing that comment and was curious.
I've got a pile of passive adapters because I have an esoteric device that has broken DP audio but HDMI audio using DP++ works fine.
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Again you're just excusing the lack of engineering time put into an onscreen message. 'Overheating detected, reducing video resolution'. Nintendo will earn millions by keeping it proprietary. Lets stop pretending this is about technical ability or 'protecting' the consumer from a bad ux.
> Nintendo will earn millions by keeping it proprietary. Lets stop pretending this is about technical ability or 'protecting' the consumer from a bad ux. Nintendo ships a dock with every Switch 2. How big is the market for people buying aftermarket docks? Nintendo has always aimed very squarely at the mass market.
A very selective reply