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Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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adastra22 wrote: post #60
Fade_Dance wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately the em dash has already been relegated to the dungeon of AI suspicion for the next 5-10 years.

I often edit things in Word — I have a document that I can alt-tab to and type things. It has spellcheck, etc. that my browser window does not, and I’m not at risk of losing if I refresh or something. Then copy-paste back. Word converts any - into an em dash based on context. Guess who’s always accused of being a bot? The thing is, AI learned to use these things because it is good typographical style represented in i…

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Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by esseph »

viccis wrote: post #148
Fade_Dance wrote: post #39

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Unfortunately the em dash has already been relegated to the dungeon of AI suspicion for the next 5-10 years.

Good. It's a crutch for poorly composed sentences or for prose intending to imitate the affect of poorly composed sentences. There's not a single sentence under the sun that needs an emdash. Commas and parentheses can do it all, and an excess of either is a sign of poorly edited prose. I don't buy the pro-clanker pro-em dash movement that has come out of nowhere in the past several years.

Hm clankers, squids, and bugs?!?

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by crooked-v »

jofzar wrote: post #154
jameslk wrote: post #131

> Words including “surpass,” “boast,” “meticulous,” “strategically,” and “garner” have also seen considerable increases in usage since the release of ChatGPT. Do people really not use these words too often that they'd be called "buzzwords?" Like "surpass" and "garner," really? I don't mean to boast..err...flex but these don't seem like very uncommon words such that I wouldn't use them normally when talking. I hear "s…

There's just words which previously were never used because there is a. more "common" word in the general lexicon. An example of this is "delve" it's a perfectly fine word to use but chatgpt loved it, it's now super common to see in troubleshooting/abstracts because of it.

From what I understand, the apparent overuse of "delve" comes from its popularity in Nigerian English, where various evaluators were hired who are highly English literate but will work for tiny wages by US standards.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by hliyan »

milancurcic wrote: post #4

"Recent large-scale upticks in the use of words like “delve” and “intricate” in certain fields, especially education and academic writing, are attributed to the widespread introduction of LLMs with a chat function, like ChatGPT, that overuses those buzzwords." OK, but please don't do what pg did a year or so ago and dismiss anyone who wrote "delve" as AI writing. I've been using "delve" in speech for 15+ years. It's…

Same here. I frequently use "garner", "meticulous" and "surpass", along with copious usage of the em-dash to indicate breaks in the chain of thought. These are not buzzwords. They're words.

What I do worry about is the rise of excessive superlatives: e.g. rather than saying, "okay", "sounds good" or "I agree", saying "fantastic!", "perfect!" or "awesome!". I get the feeling this disease originated in North America and has now spread everywhere, including LLMs.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by tbossanova »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #158
viccis wrote: post #153

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Words like that were banned in my English classes for being empty verbiage. It's a good policy even if it seems like a silly purpose. "Therefore" is clumsy and heavy handed in most settings.

It has been banned in pre-AI style manuals.

I write “therefore” therefore I am an AI.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by ics »

jijijijij wrote: post #152
diego_sandoval wrote: post #10

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Same thing as with em dashes. Some of us have been using em dashes from before ChatGPT.

Funny enough, I avoided the em dash, because everyone was using hyphens and I didn't want forensic linguistics bored. Now that AI got my FBI agents on welfare and em dashed the internet kaputt, now that I am liberated, I can't tell an em dash and hyphen apart, hand–written in my diary.

I have mixed feelings about the liberation but am glad that there are at least two of us.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by what »

viccis wrote: post #148
Fade_Dance wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately the em dash has already been relegated to the dungeon of AI suspicion for the next 5-10 years.

Good. It's a crutch for poorly composed sentences or for prose intending to imitate the affect of poorly composed sentences. There's not a single sentence under the sun that needs an emdash. Commas and parentheses can do it all, and an excess of either is a sign of poorly edited prose. I don't buy the pro-clanker pro-em dash movement that has come out of nowhere in the past several years.

>pro-em dash movement that has come out of nowhere

Bots that are trying to convince you they’re human..

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by wiml »

the_af wrote: post #177
Fade_Dance wrote: post #39

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Unfortunately the em dash has already been relegated to the dungeon of AI suspicion for the next 5-10 years.

Dammit -- I use my dashes all the time (though always double them like here). I hope AI didn't ruin this for me. (I learned to use dashes like this from Philip Dick's writings, of all places, and it stuck. Bet nobody ever thought of looking for writing style in PKD!).

I encountered the TeXbook at a young and impressionable age, and ever since I've used em- and en-dashes a bit more often than a style guide would suggest. Not to mention diareses, though those haven't been flagged as LLM stigmata yet.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by what »

smt88 wrote: post #172
stinkbeetle wrote: post #129

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So you're the ones who have been training the robots.

Reddit and HN are among the highest quality sources of training text and are probably weighted very heavily as "probably human" in the mainstream models. Any source of text with huge amounts of automated and community moderation will be better quality than, say, Twitter.

Reddit is anything but high quality.
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