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Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by ffsm8 »

hliyan wrote: post #157
erulabs wrote: post #5

Unbelievable! Watched with my 4 year old, he was full of questions about why the ocean was turning to nighttime, what satellites are, about going to another planet, about the earth being so blue and if we “ever even knew that before”. Just wonderful stuff. So excited for the future.

This is the same age when I started watching Star Trek (original series). To say it had a profound impact on my interest in science and ethics is an understatement. English wasn't even my first language, but I think I picked up a lot of the themes, and my interest in science, tech and ethical philosophy continues to this day. I actually wrote this bit about introducing children to Star Trek (answer is a bit dated now…

Dated indeed, as nobody is interested in Star Trek anymore since they've actively ruined the IP.

Heck, the person spearheading star Trek vision has gone on public records essentially saying he never liked star Trek and that's why he's gonna make it more like star wars....

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by quadhome »

rubzah wrote: post #186
monero-xmr wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My kids learning to ride a bike - the moment you release your hand for the first time and they just go and go. When my son learned checkers, and then when he beat me the first time. When my daughter told her first original joke at a family dinner and everyone died laughing. The moments truly never stop. Every single day they amaze and surprise you, fill you with so much love and joy and appreciation. One time Bill Ga…

Even Steve Jobs, who was by most accounts a pretty cold fish (his many other qualities notwithstanding), said something similar. By memory, he said something like: With your kids, it's as if they carry your heart around outside of your body. Which I found super touching and apt.

"Making the decision to have a child - it is momentous. It is to decide forever to have your heart go walking around outside your body." -- Elizabeth Stone

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by dotnet00 »

mayama wrote: post #148
dotnet00 wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought that while the spare tiles did exist, there was never an actual safe procedure for replacing tiles (that didn't require being docked to the ISS) they were only carried to be available when the choice was between losing the entire crew on reentry or risking a crew member? I don't quite understand how the airplane shape made it easier to model the loading and positioning? (Not saying you're wrong, just doesn'…

> I don't quite understand how the airplane shape made it easier to model the loading and positioning? (Not saying you're wrong, just doesn't fit my intuition and I'm curious). You can approximate space shuttle reentry to roughly a 2d surface entering atmosphere. Because of airplane shape, the tile side faces atmosphere and the plasma goes around plane edges. Where as starship being cylinder doesn't have any separati…

Ah, that makes sense!

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Post by ptero »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #188
monero-xmr wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard disagree, I lived my life without children, the hedonism and lack of responsibility. And you can live this until death. And I didn’t discount such a life in my writing. I stated that having children fundamentally changes you, in a way you will never understand

Given State of World, my take on it is there's far more hedonism and irresponsibility in having kids. It's nice they make you happy, but will their lives be happy? The evidence says it's very unlikely. My choice is not to inflict that experience on another sentient being. I'm really not seeing anything at the moment that encourages me to question that.

For a different perspective: the world today is not perfect, but when I compare the current state of the world with how our ancestors lived from the Roman empire to the last century I think my kids have a high chances to do much better than that average.

My direct ancestors lived through some harrowing times without losing their will to live and if they were alive today they would likely feel this is a great time to be alive. My 2c.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by monero-xmr »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #188
monero-xmr wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard disagree, I lived my life without children, the hedonism and lack of responsibility. And you can live this until death. And I didn’t discount such a life in my writing. I stated that having children fundamentally changes you, in a way you will never understand

Given State of World, my take on it is there's far more hedonism and irresponsibility in having kids. It's nice they make you happy, but will their lives be happy? The evidence says it's very unlikely. My choice is not to inflict that experience on another sentient being. I'm really not seeing anything at the moment that encourages me to question that.

You can choose to end your bloodline, and your opinion is the human race should go extinct now like a race of eunuchs have taken over. But I could personally not disagree more

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by chasd00 »

jiggawatts wrote: post #114
chasd00 wrote: post #42

Just saw the splash down. I think this was 100% successful test.

A composite overwrapped pressure vessel (COPV) seems to have exploded on the upper stage during reentry. It did significant damage to the rear flap and it made some dents in the engines too.

Another copv failure? That’s what ripped open the starship during the ground test. Wtf I suspect that sub won’t be making copvs for spacex any longer.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by chasd00 »

maxlin wrote: post #190

Exhilarating to see the V2 finally get its "fourth time's the charm" full success! My top reason for wanting to visit US has flipped semi-recently to wanting to witness one of these launches. I'd hate for the Boca Chica site to become more secretive as it marches on towards production quality.

The crazy thing is there’s a public road about 200 yards from the pad that also goes right by the front door of the factory. Like you can drive right up to starbase, park, and walk around and see everything. Also, you can go past the pad to the beach and walk up on the dunes and be within 500 yards of the pad and whatever is sitting on it too. I visited a few years ago and was amazed at the scale and how everything is literally right on the side of the road. One thing I didn’t expect, it’s pretty noisy because it’s an ongoing construction site. You don’t think of that when you see the videos.

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Post by close04 »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #188
monero-xmr wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard disagree, I lived my life without children, the hedonism and lack of responsibility. And you can live this until death. And I didn’t discount such a life in my writing. I stated that having children fundamentally changes you, in a way you will never understand

Given State of World, my take on it is there's far more hedonism and irresponsibility in having kids. It's nice they make you happy, but will their lives be happy? The evidence says it's very unlikely. My choice is not to inflict that experience on another sentient being. I'm really not seeing anything at the moment that encourages me to question that.

> Given State of World, my take on it is there's far more hedonism and irresponsibility in having kids.

Compared to what? We're living in some of the best times humanity as a whole ever had. Deciding en-masse to not have kids is the irresponsible thing because it literally condemns humanity to extinction and creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. You're cursing the world because you stubbed your toe. Social media inflicted this kind of feeling a lot over the last couple of decades.

> but will their lives be happy?

You'd have to ask them. Humans overwhelmingly choose to live so you could conclude that they prefer existing over the alternative. Happiness is very relative and you'd have a hard time defining it even for yourself, let alone for your hypothetical unborn child.

> The evidence says it's very unlikely.

There's absolutely no evidence to support anything you said. It's your personal preference and you're entitled to it. Why don't you own your choice instead of putting it on fictitious evidence that your unborn child will be unhappy?

> My choice is not to inflict that experience on another sentient being

Whatever you pick you're making that choice for you, not for them.

Re: Starship's Tenth Flight Test

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Post by bamboozled »

itishappy wrote: post #145
bamboozled wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Were the outputs of the project privately owned by them after receiving massive levels of tax payer funding?

I don't know who owned what, but many components of the Apollo era space program were manufactured by privately owned companies that received taxpayer funding: Grumman, Boeing, Rockwell, Douglass, and IBM to name a few.

I know the history well about the involvement of private contractors, the difference is that in the end, NASA, a government agency owned the tech and the public benefited massively from NASA and continues to benefit today. Basically every tax paying American was a shareholder in that greatness.

I bet you one thing for sure, if this didn't have Elon Musk smell on it, and it was a government funded project, it would have 2500 upvotes. I can tell you that for sure. Just most people are afraid to speak their mind because...well you know, the flagging and down votes. Which I couldn't care less about, I think this whole down voting ideas you don't like game is rather stupid. This community has not evolved in years.

300 something upvotes for something "this big" as opposed to the 2500+ yesterday about Google's anti-side loading efforts should tell you that.

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