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Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by atleastoptimal »

cramsession wrote: post #169
atleastoptimal wrote: post #162

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Doesn't matter. That hype will draw attention, which will draw investors, which will draw in money to pay for the best researchers until they become SOTA. If 3 years ago the tech was available then how come the Neuralink patients never got that? I'm sure they'd be the first to sign up. Distribution is part of innovation. Brain computer interfaces exist but those who would be willing to undergo the procedure to get th…

That's not how things have played out with Tesla. They have all the investment in the world and the most irrational valuation to have ever graced the public markets, yet their tech is years behind competitors.

Does any other consumer car brand have a self-driving mode as good as Tesla's?

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Post by a-dub »

pizzathyme wrote: post #166
arnaudsm wrote: post #131

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There's a lot of parallels here to the history of Nikola Tesla vs. Marconi. Tesla's inventions were superior, more reliable, more versatile in almost every way. But Marconi is the one remembered as the father of the radio, despite stealing Tesla's ideas and implementing them in less reliable fashion. He got to market fast, iterated on horrible versions, built broken products, but he shipped shipped shipped. And in th…

i don't see it like a typical technological race for dominance. user count seems silly beyond bragging rights. i think it's more like a multiparty multipath expedition where the results of each team reaching the top is yet another option with different properties and/or a step forward for clinicians to improve the lives of people with horrible conditions and diseases.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Arainach wrote: post #164
atleastoptimal wrote: post #162

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Doesn't matter. That hype will draw attention, which will draw investors, which will draw in money to pay for the best researchers until they become SOTA. If 3 years ago the tech was available then how come the Neuralink patients never got that? I'm sure they'd be the first to sign up. Distribution is part of innovation. Brain computer interfaces exist but those who would be willing to undergo the procedure to get th…

>If 3 years ago the tech was available then how come the Neuralink patients never got that? I'm sure they'd be the first to sign up. Because other companies have ethics and follow the rules and best practices. They register their clinical trials with the NIH and they stop and ask questions if half the monkeys they test on end up dead.

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Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by Just_Harry »

aeternum wrote: post #188
gpm wrote: post #147

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Note that the first paper you were linked is about a patient in a clinical trial... the paraplegic's life which has been fundamentally improved is the participant in that clinical trial.

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It's freely available at https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10826467/

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by 0xDEAFBEAD »

jjcob wrote: post #129
marknutter wrote: post #90

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It will never cease to amaze me how some people think they can know somebody the've never met as well as you think you do. I attribute it to projection.

This guy tweets all day and the press talks about every little thing he ever does, there are hundreds of videos of him on youtube, dozens of his employees and ex-employees telling stories about him on the net. How much more do you think you are going to learn if you actually talk to him?

I would argue a lot of Musk haters are not getting a representative sample of his behavior, but rather only the most outrageous things he says and does, which tend to be the things that penetrate their bubble.

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Post by cncjchsue7 »

goosejuice wrote: post #149
arnaudsm wrote: post #131

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Well your father can't buy a Waymo. Even if he could it wouldn't go very far, wouldn't work everywhere and would cost at least 2x a model 3 or Y. So there are at least several leads Tesla has. It's a horrible comparison. Why do people keep making it? This isn't Lyft vs Uber. A better comparison to Tesla FSD would be blue cruise, super cruise, drive pilot, god's eye, and every other consumer level 2 ADAS.

Why? Ideological capture. I thought that was obvious. TDS/MDS.

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Post by gtirloni »

aeternum wrote: post #188
gpm wrote: post #147

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Note that the first paper you were linked is about a patient in a clinical trial... the paraplegic's life which has been fundamentally improved is the participant in that clinical trial.

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As opposed to verified by armchair scientists? It's public, btw.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by alhirzel »

picafrost wrote: post #46

I think anyone who chooses to undergo the first few trials of a new operation like this, and is informed about the risks, is very brave. I do not know much of anything about medical science, but my impression is that we are still very, very far from having a deep grasp of how both the brain and the immune system work. Ultimately, to the body an implant is simply a foreign object. Many tech professionals work on proje…

> would be quite the burden to carry

only if you care

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by spondylosaurus »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #132
fracus wrote: post #123

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From what I've read, if you are blind from birth, but visual signals were suddenly restored, your brain wouldn't know how to process them. Blind from birth = blind forever. I'm not certain though.

I think the brain would adapt. It may take a while but the brain is very flexible and adaptable.

Case studies suggest otherwise, at least for most people.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1993/05/10/to-see-and-not...

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