> starting at €2.50/month (paid annually)
> I had no issues with paying the equivalent of two coffees a month
Where can you get coffee for €1.25?!
Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org
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#192Anyone considering a move should also look at NameCrane/CraneMail by the crew behind BuyVM. Solid service, incredibly reasonable prices, great community/discord. They are always looking to improve, extremely proactive and reactive to customer feedback and issues. No builtin PGP, but I believe that is out of their control as they use SmarterMail on the backend.
Same question as above, do they have masked emails feature? Also, if you go the demo email they have, settings-connectivity, you can literally see all other people’s IP who are logged in there, concerning.
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#193I spent the past month "de-Googling" my life after I saw a notice in my Gmail inbox that it was 20 years old. I took a step back and realized just how invested into the Google ecosystem I was. Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Drive, Maps, Keep, Photos, YouTube, FitBit, Android. Basically my entire digital life. My goal was more diversifying than security/privacy, but security/privacy is a really nice bonus. I ended up going wi…
What’s the point though? So you don’t come across as a Google shill?
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#194Zoho Mail is very good, priced well, and available in multiple zones- EU/US/etc.
Same here! Quite low prices, has been stable, and i use my personal domain (for my family)...and can't complain.
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#195> This was a tough decision, having used Gmail since 2007/2008. However, I had to draw the line and stop giving Google my data for free. > > The problem with email is that everything is transmitted in plain text. Interestingly, one of my biggest problems with Gmail is that they don't allow actual plaintext. I used to routinely collaborate with developers who were vision-impaired, and the official Gmail phone app woul…
That sounds like a problem with the Gmail webmail client -- I don't think Gmail does that when used over IMAP with an external client?
the web client can send plain text, it's only the mobile client that doesn't have an option to do so
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#196> starting at €2.50/month (paid annually) > I had no issues with paying the equivalent of two coffees a month Where can you get coffee for €1.25?!
Italy I think
Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org
#197I’ve been a Fastmail user for years, having left Gmail. It works great and have nothing be but praise for them. I use my own domain with them so if I decide to leave it’s not an issue worrying about updating people with my new email.
I am a person who doesn't have any brand loyalty. If there's something else that's better or has the same features at the same cost, I will go for it. That being said, Fastmail has been great. Besides the unlimited domains and masked email features, I never had an issue with my emails ending up in someone else's spam folder. This is crucial to me not to lose a client or a job, or even government communications. Some might argue about security/privacy, but emails are never meant to be that medium for secure communications. Even with PGP you would still leak metadata, so if you are after security, don't use email. Other than that, I will be after reliability and ease of use features.
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
This solves the "dependence on Gmail" problem (which is definitely a worthy problem to solve) but not the general "dependence on a particular mail provider" problem. The next step in this walk-down-the-risk-chain is self-hosting on a VPS, where you're now just dependent on your VPS provider, and the next step could be self-hosting on your own metal, where you're now just dependent on your ISP. Happy trails!
What bothered me about Gmail was that it was central to my life and if something were to happen and they locked my account they have zero support. With that out of the way I feel perfectly happy with FM — no need to go further down the paranoia hole.
I'm on fastmail with an xyz.dev domain and keep a gmail for legacy purposes. Unfortunately some email validators will reject my short FM address.
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#199I’ve been a Fastmail user for years, having left Gmail. It works great and have nothing be but praise for them. I use my own domain with them so if I decide to leave it’s not an issue worrying about updating people with my new email.
Is there a way to use Fastmail such that you run a receive email server but use Fastmail to send?
I don't mind running an email server for receive. I despise all the hoops you have to jump through for send deliverability.
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#200> The problem with email is that everything is transmitted in plain text. That's not a Gmail problem, and no reason to migrate. Some use cases just don't fit email, and for those, we have other, more fitting platforms. > So, I went with mailbox.org that still offers integrated PGP encryption, and if you want, you can always use external PGP too (which I was already doing with Gmail). Ok, so now you have two problems.
But we haven't started using regular expressions yet...!? I was fortunate enough that my solution was to host my own mail server 20+ years ago and create a separate email address per relationship with a company, so I can tell the moment some 3rd party has been comprimised when I receive spam on a specific address. My personal spam has been minimal over time. If for example moc.elgoog@mydomain.com gets spam - I know t…
Google '+' addresses aren't really safe anymore as thieves and some spammers will be sophisticated enough to strip them. You also run into broken validators that reject '+'. Much better to have on-demand wildcards with a custom domain in any format you wish.