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Re: Fight Chat Control

#191

In the US, we have government programs like PRISM and unchecked oligopolies that surveil us and use that information to identify dissent, sell us ads, and alter our behavior. In the EU, there are these initiatives to surveil us in the name of safety. Is there any regime out there who's not trying to mass-surveil their citizens for one reason or another?

In the US, violations of civil rights that are performed by officials (like legislators) can be prosecuted under something called color of law. I think it is rarely done, if ever, but the justice department could do it. Maybe Americans need to start pushing their own representatives to call for such a case in situations where individual rights are violated.

Is there something like this in the EU, so that officials feel personal risk and liability for their actions in pushing this anti democratic policy?

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#192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

probably they call "so-called left" the liberals

Nobody would call them "left", especially not during Macron's 2nd term, the Walkers (or whatever is their new moniker) have firmly solidified as liberals in the right-wing sense (rather than in the bottom-wing sense).

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Re: Fight Chat Control

#193

Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Signal chat messages to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner? Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Sessions chat message sent via TOR to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner? Genuinely curious. Can those that are in power break this encryption?

The proposed regulation is about imposing requirements on service providers, as defined by the Digital Services Act, for messaging and other services, effectively requiring them to implement backdoors in their software.

Purely P2P communication isn’t affected.

Re: Fight Chat Control

#194
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Hello! I made this website. Thank you for sharing. I appreciate all the feedback, and have implemented a few changes. A few points worth accentuating to avoid any misunderstandings. It is correct that the current proposal indeed is at the Council level, introduced as a high-priority item by the Danish Presidency. It is not yet with the Parliament. This is important as both need to be in agreement for any legislation…

Hello, it's not working for me, "send emails" fails with:

Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'selectedMeps') at Object.showSelectionFeedback (takeAction.js:546:41) at Object.selectAllRepresentatives (takeAction.js:542:14) at HTMLButtonElement.onclick ((index):1:13)

Re: Fight Chat Control

#195

Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Signal chat messages to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner? Can someone explain how they could read my e2e Sessions chat message sent via TOR to my wife about what I'm cooking for dinner? Genuinely curious. Can those that are in power break this encryption?

They can fine apple and google for offering signal in their app stores, until nobody has it installed. That doesn’t break your comms today - but later, you replace your phone, can you get a current copy of the app?

Not quite. It would be illegal for Signal to continue operating in the EU if they don’t implement the required scanning functionality. And Signal has already stated that they’d rather leave the EU.

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#196

A little context here since this website is highly misleading: - EU Council holds more power in Europe than EU Parliament - EU Council is pushing this regulation - this website misrepresents the positions of most members of EU Parliament - it shows "Supports" despite most of them being "Unknown" Overall, while people should be encouraged to contact their MEPs, I suspect many are already very informed on this & strong…

You mean the Council of the EU. The EUCO is a separate body. SCNR.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/decision-makin...

Re: Fight Chat Control

#197
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is the difference to the US, China or the UK? Governments often try that kind of nonsense. Usually against organized crime, terrorism, child abuse. But in the end it’s just used for the heavy crimes like copyright infringement

The US, at least, has a Bill of Rights that would make this illegal, it would definitely violate the 4th Amendment and maybe the 1st too.

From what I've seen, the US also has a more "rebellious" culture than the EU, for lack of a better term; laws are viewed less as an absolute and the population is far more willing to break them if the consequences are perceived as minor. This is bipartisan; examples that come to mind include: electing a convicted felon, helping illegal immigrants stay in the country, and going 10 over the speed limit.

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#199

So what is the real solution? Meaning the solution that an individual could use themselves, without further coordination, to insulate themselves from this policy. Is it an Android distribution? Jailbreaking? Custom builds?

The real solution is to stop the law while it is still being negotiated.

If the law was passed, would there still be things you could do to insulate yourself from the effects of the law?

If so, that is the real solution, because it works in all cases.

Re: Fight Chat Control

#200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuely curious. What would the problem be if it was vibe-coded? It's an easy to read site that succeeds in communicating what it wants.

there's no problem with it being vibe-coded The point is that the site, contacting your local MEP, and all the discussion in this thread, is pointless to affect some kind of durable societal change Pointing out that it's vibe-coded just emphasises that all of the above actions are just low-effort cope

Can you suggest an alternative action?
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