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The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025

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Re: The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025

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The electoral college is a rubber stamp of the popular vote (per state). The commission is selected by the member-states governments with no electoral input. You cannot be making this argument in good faith...

The member-states governments are elected by popular vote, per state, just as electors are. It is the same level of indirection, whichever way you try to reframe it.

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Re: The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025

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The member-states governments are elected by popular vote, per state, just as electors are. It is the same level of indirection, whichever way you try to reframe it.

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It's a big claim to say somebody is spreading lies. I would say it would require at least a bit of evidence.

Re: The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025

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Why does this stupid idea have to be killed so many times? Being watched constantly means living in fear, but seeing it almost become legally mandated practice over and over again is itself a form of living in fear. I'm so tired.

Almost as if there should be a rule that disallows introducing the same proposal multiple times under different names.

Re: The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025

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post #33

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Open source will find a way around it; there's no reason to be afraid. Unless one day their spyware is installed at the hardware level but that would be the equivalent of raiding our homes, so that's not very likely.

open source wont save you. if they make encryption without backdoor illegal they will just throw you in jail

They will once they catch you doing it, yes. The people who this _won't_ stop however, are criminals.

Re: The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025

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In previous EU presidencies it's only been defeated by a slim margin, in part thanks to grassroots pressure. The attitude of the governments in favor of it has been: "whatever, we'll keep trying and we'll get it eventually". So getting upset that people talk about it when it gets tabled once again is illogical and unjustifiable.

I'm confused now: is now the EU the baddie or the governments? Because these are two different entities - and not at least, also "the EU" is a group of government representatives. So folks if you're in the EU and don't like something the EU does - you do have levers, go vote, campaign, do something to move your own folks to do something on the EU level. And if you're in the US maybe better check your own backyard, I…

Unfortunately the EU is far from democratic. The people making these decisions are allowed to be anonymous as well.

Re: The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025

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post #163

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Then what is happening? Pretty sure we have documented cases of American citizens being arrested without a case.

The max that is happening here, assuming the poster is referring to the current administration's policy to remove undocumented aliens from the country, is that some operational mistakes unfortunately will be made since an estimated 10 million people entered the country illegally in the last four years. It is my hope and belief that any such mistakes would be swiftly corrected, and that the undocumented people that ar…

First they came for the illegal immigrants and I did not speak out, because I was not an illegal immigrant.

Then they came for the legal immigrants they didn't like and I did not speak out, because I was not a legal immigrant. [0]

Then they came for their political enemies [1] and I did not speak up, because I was not their political enemy.

Then they came for me - and there was noone left to speak for me.

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/01/trump-zohran...

[1] https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/rnc-2016-lock-her-up-...

Re: The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025

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My country for sure will veto it. Last time when they tried it there were massive demonstrations. While the current gov is led by someone that for sure has no backbone to stand up to his good friends in the EU People's party(the name says it all). It is also a minority one that is held up by a coalition that will break instantly if they tried to push this through.

Re: The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025

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As a parent, I can tell you it's insanely easy to manage allowing kids online. Don't.. or 100% supervised. Done

This works - until they grow up. Will you filter the world for them when they are adults too? Your role, as a parent, is to prepare them for independent life, life without you. How will you do that if you never give them the reins?

They get the reigns when they're an adult. The prior poster did mention supervision.

Re: The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025

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My country for sure will veto it. Last time when they tried it there were massive demonstrations. While the current gov is led by someone that for sure has no backbone to stand up to his good friends in the EU People's party(the name says it all). It is also a minority one that is held up by a coalition that will break instantly if they tried to push this through.

Which country is that, if you don't mind sharing. Are there some articles about the demonstrations that you can share?

Re: The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025

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post #174

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Partly. But it isn't necessarily Xenophobia. Those who have different cultures happen to be typically immigrants, but not always. e.g. In Northern Ireland (and parts of Scotland) there were clashes between Protestants and Catholics. I used to see them all the time on the news when I was a kid. There are two distinct groups (both Christian) that have not co-existed very well historically. I don't know if you would cal…

Sure. That's a very generous interpretation. But I am quite certain OP does not mean "priviliged white dudes" as the issue with "multiculturalism". May OP can expand on what they mean exactly.

No it isn't a "generous interpretation". You seem to be taking very uncharitable interpretation while insinuating they are some sort of unrepentant racist. I am not sure why you are doing that. I find it extremely tiresome.

I deliberately gave examples where both groups were White Europeans so to avoid any conflation with racism. Otherwise the conversation is guaranteed to go nowhere as it ends up in accusations of people being secretly racist.

The problem is simply a clash of values between two disparate groups of people as they come from different cultures. The ethnicity of the groups is often irrelevant.

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