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Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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Exactly. I've seen goo.gl URLs in printed books. Obviously in old blog posts too. And in government websites. Nonprofit communications. Everywhere. Why break this?? Sure, deprecate the service. Add no new entries. This is a good idea anyway, link shorteners are bad for the internet. But breaking all the existing goo.gl URLs seems bizarrely hostile, and completely unnecessary. It would take so little to keep them up.…

> Why break this?? We already told you: people are likely brute-forcing URLs.

I'm not sure why that is a problem.

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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About 60k academic citations about to die - https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=90&q=%22https://goo... Countless books with irrevocably broken references - https://www.google.com/search?q=%22://goo.gl%22&sca_upv=1&sc... And for what? The cost of keeping a few TB online and a little bit of CPU power? An absolute act of cultural vandalism.

Truly, the most Googly of sunsets.

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

#193
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Ahh classic free market cop out.

if the smartest among us publishing for academia cannot figure this out, then who will?

Not infrequently, someone being smart in one field doesn't necessarily mean they can solve problems in another.

I know some brilliant people, but, well, putting it kindly, they're as useful as a chocolate teapot outside of their specific area of academic expertise.

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

#194
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About 60k academic citations about to die - https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=90&q=%22https://goo... Countless books with irrevocably broken references - https://www.google.com/search?q=%22://goo.gl%22&sca_upv=1&sc... And for what? The cost of keeping a few TB online and a little bit of CPU power? An absolute act of cultural vandalism.

> And for what? The cost of keeping a few TB online and a little bit of CPU power?

For the immeasurable benefits of educating the public.

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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I find it amusing that you are complaining about not having a computer to click a link while glossing over the fact that you need a computer to use a link at all. This use case of "I have a paper journal and no PDF but a computer with a web browser" seems extraordinarily contrived. I have literally held a single-digit number of printed papers in my entire life while looking at thousands as PDFs. If we cared, we'd use…

This kind of luddite behavior sometimes makes using this site exhausting. We have many paper documents from over 1,000 years ago. The vast majority of what was on the internet 25 years ago is gone forever.

What a weird comparison. Do we have the vast majority of paper documents from 1,000 years ago?

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

#196

Why is everyone jumping on the blame the victims bandwagon?! This is not the fault of users whether they were scientists publishing papers or the fault of the general public sharing links. This is absolutely 100% on Alphabet/Google. When you blame your customer, you have failed.

They weren't customers since they didn't buy anything, and yes, as sweet as "free" is, it is the fault of users to expect free to last forever

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

#199
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About 60k academic citations about to die - https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=90&q=%22https://goo... Countless books with irrevocably broken references - https://www.google.com/search?q=%22://goo.gl%22&sca_upv=1&sc... And for what? The cost of keeping a few TB online and a little bit of CPU power? An absolute act of cultural vandalism.

Can't someone just go through programmatically right now and build a list of all these links and where they point to? And then put up a list somewhere that everyone can go look up if they need to?

Yes: https://tracker.archiveteam.org/goo-gl

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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From the blog post: "more than 99% of them had no activity in the last month" https://developers.googleblog.com/en/google-url-shortener-li... This is a classic product data decision-making fallacy. The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used".

I bet 99% of URLs that exist on the public web had no activity last month. Might as well delete the entire WWW because it's obviously worthless.

Where'd all my porn go!?
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