Interesting. This is similar to the Google Translate bug where it would translate lorem ipsum as bits of political text (because it found most of its lorem ipsum examples flipping between languages on sites where one language was a news story but the not-yet-translated languages would output a lorem-ipsum file instead of a 404 when you toggled over to them).
Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic
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Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Chinese, it always added something like "For study/research purpose only. Please delete after 48 hours." This is what those volunteers added in subtitles of (pirated) movies/shows.
Fair, if AI companies are allowed to download pirated content for "learning", why ordinary people cannot.
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Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic
#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fair, if AI companies are allowed to download pirated content for "learning", why ordinary people cannot.
There is so much damning evidence that AI companies have committed absolutely shocking amounts of piracy, yet nothing is being done. It only highlights how the world really works. If you have money you get to do whatever the fuck you want. If you're just a normal person you get to spend years in jail or worse. Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GptobqPsvg
No one (in the US) has been jailed for downloading copyrighted material.
Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Chinese, it always added something like "For study/research purpose only. Please delete after 48 hours." This is what those volunteers added in subtitles of (pirated) movies/shows.
Fair, if AI companies are allowed to download pirated content for "learning", why ordinary people cannot.
IANAL, but reading a bit on this topic: the relevant part of the copyright law for AI isn't academia, it's transformative work. The AI created by training on copyrighted material transforms the material so much that it is no longer the original protected work (collage and sampling are the analogous transformations in the visual-arts and music industries).
As for actually gathering the copyrighted material: I believe the jury hasn't even been empaneled for that yet (in the OpenAI case), but the latest ruling from the court is that copyright may have been violated in the creation of their training corpus.
Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic
#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is so much damning evidence that AI companies have committed absolutely shocking amounts of piracy, yet nothing is being done. It only highlights how the world really works. If you have money you get to do whatever the fuck you want. If you're just a normal person you get to spend years in jail or worse. Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GptobqPsvg
No one (in the US) has been jailed for downloading copyrighted material.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz
And the US is not the only jurisdiction
Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic
#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fair, if AI companies are allowed to download pirated content for "learning", why ordinary people cannot.
There is so much damning evidence that AI companies have committed absolutely shocking amounts of piracy, yet nothing is being done. It only highlights how the world really works. If you have money you get to do whatever the fuck you want. If you're just a normal person you get to spend years in jail or worse. Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GptobqPsvg
There's actually a lot of court activity on this topic, but the law moves slowly and is reluctant to issue injunctions where harm is not obvious.
It's more that the law about "one guy decides to pirate twelve movies to watch them at home and share with his buddies" is already well-settled, but the law about "a company pirates 10,000,000 pieces to use as training data for an AI model (a practice that the law already says is legal in an academic setting, i.e. universities do this all the time and nobody bats an eye)" is more complicated and requires additional trials to resolve. And no, even though the right answer may be self-evident to you or me, it's not settled law, and if the force of law is applied poorly suddenly what the universities are doing runs afoul of it and basically nobody wants that outcome.
Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic
#197In Russian it often hallucinates "Субтитры сделал DimaTorzok" ("Subtitles by DimaTorzok") at the end of things. Interestingly, I wasn't able to find any YouTube videos with that name in the subtitles, so it's not like it's in a lot of training data.
I tried googling this and found questions from Telegram users why voice messages recognition sometimes produces this phrase and who is this person. Also I found this thread [1] claiming that the subtitles by DimaTorzok are coming from some Russian youtube videos on gaming like [2].
Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic
#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Chinese, it always added something like "For study/research purpose only. Please delete after 48 hours." This is what those volunteers added in subtitles of (pirated) movies/shows.
Fair, if AI companies are allowed to download pirated content for "learning", why ordinary people cannot.
>why ordinary people cannot
They can. I don't think anyone got prosecuted for using an illegal streaming site or downloading from sci-hub, for instance. What people do get sued for is seeding, which counts as distribution. If anything AI companies are getting prosecuted more aggressively than "ordinary people", presumably because of their scale. In a recent lawsuit Anthropic won on the part about AI training on books, but lost on the part where they used pirated books.
Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic
#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
At least for English, those "fansubs" aren't typically burnt into the movie*, but ride along in the video container (MP4/MKV) as subtitle streams. They can typically be extracted as SRT files (plain text with sentence level timestamps). *Although it used to be more common for AVI files in the olden days.
SRT is ancient. Nowadays everyone uses ASS subtitles which can be randomly styled.
WebVTT (a SubRip successor) is probably more widely used than ASS
Re: Complete silence is always hallucinated as "ترجمة نانسي قنقر" in Arabic
#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the magic of money. Download your favorite artist's discography for personal use? If the MPAA had its way (and it occasionally has), torrenting that could bankrupt you. The AI industry - soaking up every bit of media available online for commercial purposes, often reproducing it nearly identically - has enough money and capital to influence things its way. And only its way, in case anyone was hoping this might…
> Download your favorite artist's discography for personal use? If the MPAA had its way (and it occasionally has), torrenting that could bankrupt you. I don't think that there are any clear examples of cases where ONLY downloading has resulted in huge fines. All the big bankrupting level fines have been for both downloading and sharing. You mention that 'torrenting' could bankrupt you, and that is true, but the main…
You contradict yourself. There were numerous public cases where they chased people downloading few mp3s just for themselves, and made into example case with massive fines.
If you don't understand how torrents work on technical level I suggest at least some shallow reading. Property rights holders don't care about details, as long as you tick the box of sending a single packet to somebody, off to court with ya.