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It's rude to show AI output to people

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Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

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Post by csa »

lxgr wrote: post #118
phito wrote: post #4

I really wish some of my coworkers would stop using LLMs to write me emails or even Teams messages. It does feel extremely rude, to the point I don't even want to read them anymore.

"Hey, I can't help but notice that some of the messages you're sending me are partially LLM-generated. I appreciate you wanting to communicate stylistically and grammatically correct, but I personally prefer the occasional typo or inelegant expression over the chance of distorted meanings or lost/hallucinated context. Going forward, could you please communicate with me directly? I really don't mind a lack of capitali…

“No”

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

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Post by desolate_muffin »

In addition to what others have complained about, another issue I haven't seen highlighted as much in the comments is the infuriating explosion of content length.

AI responses seem to have very low information density by default, so for me the irritation is threefold—it requires very little mental effort for the sender (i.e., I often read responses that don't feel sufficiently considered); it is often poorly validated by the sender; and it is disrespectful to the reader's time.

Like some of the other commenters, I am also not in a position to change this at work, but I am disheartened by how some of my fellow engineers have taken to putting up low effort PRs with errors, as well as unreasonably long design docs. My entire company seems to have bought into the whole "AI-first company" thing without actually validating if the outputs are worth the squeeze. Maybe sometimes they are, but I get a sense that the path of least resistance tends toward accepting lower quality code and communication.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

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Post by righthand »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #130
righthand wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously you should respond to the slop in the email and waste your coworkers time too. “No I don’t need this formatted for Outlook Dave. Thanks for asking though!”

That wastes your own time as well though.

Not much and it points out how crappy Dave’s slop job is, especially if you do it with Reply All. We already entered the wasting time-zone when Dave copypasta’d.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

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Post by labrador »

recipe19 wrote: post #51
labrador wrote: post #32

The author was thinking "boring and uninteresting" but settled on the word "rude." No, it's not rude. Emailing your co-workers provactive political memes or telling someone to die in a fire is rude. Using ChatGPT to write and being obvious about it marks you as an uninteresting person who may not know what they are talking about. On the other hand, emailing your prompt and the result you got can be instructive to oth…

I disagree. The most obvious message this telegraphs is "I don't respect you or your argument enough to parse it and articulate a response, why don't you argue with a machine instead". That's rude. There is an alternative interpretation - "the LLM put it so much better than I ever could, so I copied and pasted that" - but precisely because of the ambiguity, you don't want to be sneaky about it. If you want me to have…

Point taken. I wouldn't want to argue with someone's LLM. I guess I'm an outlier in that I would never post LLM output as my own. I write, then I sometimes have an LLM check it because it points out where people might be confused or misinterpret certain phrases.

Edit: I'm 67 so ChatGPT is especially helpful in pointing out where my possible unconscious dinosaur attitudes may be offensive to Millennials and Gen Z.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

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Post by GeoAtreides »

hks0 wrote: post #79

> "I vibe-coded this pull request in just 15 minutes. Please review" > > Well, why don't you review it first? My current day to day problem is that, the PRs don't come with that disclaimer; The authors won't even admit if asked directly. Yet I know my comments on the PR will be fed to the cursor so it makes more crappy edits, and I'll be expecting an entirely different PR in 10 minutes to review from scratch without…

My condolences, that sounds like hell

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

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Post by bri3k »

panarchy wrote: post #178
AlecSchueler wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That wastes your own time as well though.

Just get an AI to do it for you

I always thought this is the end game, my ai agent talking to their ai agent. No human paying attention to the conversation at all

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

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Post by ram_rar »

As a non-native English speaker, I’ve often struggled to communicate nuance or subtlety in writing—especially when addressing non-technical audiences. LLMs have been a game-changer for me. They’ve significantly improved my writing and made it much easier to articulate my thoughts clearly.

Sure, it can be frustrating that they don’t adapt to a user’s personal style. But for those of us who haven’t fully developed that stylistic sense (which is common among non-native speakers), it’s still a huge leap forward.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

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Post by moomoo11 »

jaredcwhite wrote: post #180
moomoo11 wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? AI is a tool. Are their messages incorrect or something? If not who cares, they’re being efficient and thus more productive. Please be honest. If it’s slop or they have incorrect information in the message, then my bad, stop reading here. Otherwise… I really hope people like this with holier than thou attitude get filtered out. Fast. People who don’t adapt to use new tools are some of the worst people to work ar…

If it took you no time to write it, I'll spend no time reading it. The holier than thou people are the ones who are telling us genAI is inevitable, it's here to stay, we should use it as a matter of rote, we'll be left out if we don't, it's going to change everything, blah blah blah. These are articles of faith, and I'm sorry but I'm not a believer in the religion of AI.

Good luck. If you're an employee remember that you are a expense line item :P
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