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My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by jasoncartwright »

crinkly wrote: post #188
kaffekaka wrote: post #186

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Where in lies the dishonesty? Having the AI just getting the wheels turning when I'm not in the mood myself has many times been a good way to make progress.

When you say progress, I wonder at what cost. The apparatus for original thought isn't used and pushing through a problem and deriving the satisfaction of doing that doesn't happen. That leads to the wrong motivational cues. The brain is lazy and likes to take the easy route. Eventually you become merely a machine operator, which is something a lot of my colleagues are starting to do. And it's very worrying. The bias…

I enjoy the idea that when programming before AI I wasn't 'merely a machine operator'

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by chisleu »

iambateman wrote: post #7

Claude Code is hard to describe. It’s almost like I changed jobs when I started using it. I’ve been all-in with Claude as a workflow tool, but this is literally steroids. If you haven’t tried it, I can’t recommend it enough. It’s the first time it really does feel like working with a junior engineer to me.

Like working with an incredibly talented and knowledgable junior engineer, but still a junior engineer.

If you want to try something better than claude code, try Cline.

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by crinkly »

jasoncartwright wrote: post #191
crinkly wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say progress, I wonder at what cost. The apparatus for original thought isn't used and pushing through a problem and deriving the satisfaction of doing that doesn't happen. That leads to the wrong motivational cues. The brain is lazy and likes to take the easy route. Eventually you become merely a machine operator, which is something a lot of my colleagues are starting to do. And it's very worrying. The bias…

I enjoy the idea that when programming before AI I wasn't 'merely a machine operator'

I did most of my programming and thinking on paper before I committed to the machine. I still do today.

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by rovr138 »

darkwater wrote: post #180
serf wrote: post #107

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that's really just a scale question. Yes, I would write a 4 line bash script by myself. But if you're trading a 200 line comprehensive claude.md document for a module that might be 20k LoC? it's a different value proposition.

And how do you actually know that those 20k line of codes have no glaring bugs, or bugs that you can find yourself, or be able to understand it completely at some point?

The way I do this is by still writing tests.

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by darkwater »

rovr138 wrote: post #194
darkwater wrote: post #180

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And how do you actually know that those 20k line of codes have no glaring bugs, or bugs that you can find yourself, or be able to understand it completely at some point?

The way I do this is by still writing tests.

Do tests let you understand a codebase you have not written?

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by antonvs »

crinkly wrote: post #193
jasoncartwright wrote: post #191

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I enjoy the idea that when programming before AI I wasn't 'merely a machine operator'

I did most of my programming and thinking on paper before I committed to the machine. I still do today.

But why do you use computers at all? Isn’t it intellectually dishonest?

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by Imanari »

nikcub wrote: post #171
Imanari wrote: post #65

PSA: you can use CC with any model via https://github.com/musistudio/claude-code-router The recent Kimi-K2 supposedly works great.

> The recent Kimi-K2 supposedly works great. My own experience is that it is below sonnet and opus 4.0 on capability - but better than gemini 2.5 pro on tool calling. It's really worth trying if you don't want to spend the $100 or $200 per month on Claude Max. I love how succinct the model is. > you can use CC with any model via Anthropic should just open source Claude Code - they're in a position to become the VS Co…

I tried gemini2.5 and while it is certainly a very strong model you really notice that it was not trained to be 'agentic'/with strong initiative for tool calling. Oftentimes it would make a plan, I'd say 'go ahead' and it just replied something like 'I made a todo list we are ready to implement' or something similar lol. You really had to push it to action and the whole CC experience fell apart a bit.

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by sensanaty »

thegrim33 wrote: post #34
pragmatic wrote: post #13

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Could you elaborate a bit on the tasks,languages,domain etc you’re using it with? People have such widely varying experiences and I’m wondering why.

I find it pretty interesting that it's a roughly 2,500 word article on "using Claude Code" and they never once actually explain what they're using it for, what type of project they're coding. It's all just so generic. I read some of it then realize that there was absolutely no substance in what I just read. It's also another in my growing list of data points towards my opinion that if an author posts meme pictures in…

Always good to be cognizant that there are MANY people out there, especially on HN/YC circles, with large vested interests in LLM tooling. Just check out the YC batches lately, you'll be hard pressed to find a single one that doesn't mention AI or LLMs in some way.

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by crinkly »

antonvs wrote: post #196
crinkly wrote: post #193

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I did most of my programming and thinking on paper before I committed to the machine. I still do today.

But why do you use computers at all? Isn’t it intellectually dishonest?

For communication and processing information quickly with determinism?

They aren't the best solution for everything. Thinking is one of those things.

Re: My experience with Claude Code after two weeks of adventures

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Post by johnfn »

roywiggins wrote: post #140
ctoth wrote: post #37

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I asked my contractor to install a door over the back stairs opening outward, came back, and it was installed opening inward. He told me he tried to figure out a way he could do it in-code, but there wasn't one, so that's what he had to do. I was slightly miffed he didn't consult me first, but he did the pragmatic thing. This actually happened to me Monday. But sure, humans are deterministic clockwork mechanisms! Are…

The big difference is that when questioned he didn't profusely apologize and immediately get to work undoing it, but instead gave you a reason that was probably causally related to the decision he made and not a retroactive justification made up on the spot.

You're giving people a lot of credit. Often when I ask for justification for stupid decisions I get dumb rationale that makes no sense, or no rationale at all, or something very clearly made up on the spot.
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