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Re: Kimi K2 is a state-of-the-art mixture-of-experts (MoE) language model

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Post by kragen » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 9:39 PM UTC

sophiebits wrote: post #143

ensignavenger wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The OSD does not allow for discrimination: "The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons." "The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research." By having a clause that discriminates based on revenue, it cannot be Open Source.…

This license with the custom clause seems equivalent to dual-licensing the product under the following licenses combined: * Small companies may use it without attribution * Anyone may use it with attribution The first may not be OSI compatible, but if the second license is then it’s fair to call the offering open weights, in the same way that dual-licensing software under GPL and a commercial license is a type of ope…

Well said.

Re: Kimi K2 is a state-of-the-art mixture-of-experts (MoE) language model

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 16, 2025, 8:51 AM UTC

MaxPock wrote: post #153

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real users for these open source models are businesses that want something on premises for data privacy reasons Not sure if they’ll trust a Chinese model but dropping $50-100k for a quantized model that replaces, say, 10 paralegals is good enough for a law firm

An on-premise,open source Chinese model for my business,or a closed source American model from a company that's a defense contractor .Shouldn’t be too difficult a decision to make.

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Re: Kimi K2 is a state-of-the-art mixture-of-experts (MoE) language model

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Post by LuminaWang7 » Fri, Jul 18, 2025, 9:47 AM UTC

kimi K2 really excels at autonomous tool use, complex reasoning, and multi-step task execution.

I developed an intelligent vector database agent using Kimi K2 and Milvus, which enhances document interaction via natural language commands.

Re: Kimi K2 is a state-of-the-art mixture-of-experts (MoE) language model

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Post by pabs3 » Sun, Jul 27, 2025, 2:21 AM UTC

cosmojg wrote: post #185

simonw wrote: post #17

Pelican on a bicycle result: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jul/11/kimi-k2/

For what it's worth, I think Kimi's modified MIT license still meets the OSI definition of "open source." For example, the explicitly OSI-approved "Attribute Assurance License"[1] contains similar wording: > each time the resulting executable program or a program dependent thereon is launched, a prominent display (e.g., splash screen or banner text) of the Author’s attribution information [1] https://opensource.org/l…

It probably doesn't because the attribution requirement discriminates against certain groups (large commercial organisations).