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Re: YouTube No Translation

#191

Post by thrdbndndn »

klausa wrote: post #139
matsemann wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also have this problem with apps in my native language. I have my phone set to en,no because I prefer the English version over some bad auto-translated crap where some apps try to translate stuff. But then when I download a Norwegian app, then it prefers to use some badly maintained English translation instead, but here I would of course prefer the native version. Can't win.

On iOS, this is something you can can control on a per-app basis from the (system) Settings.app.

Android has it too.

And for some reason, Apple/iOS doesn't allow you to set this for some system apps. For example, Music (Apple Music) app on iOS doesn't offer this option, which I desperately need because I don't want the music metadata I listened got translated.

Re: YouTube No Translation

#192

Post by seydor »

Tepix wrote: post #178
seydor wrote: post #40

i dont mind the others, but the automatic audio switch is very offensive to the creators

I think creators have the option to turn them off in the video settings. Unfortunately, many do not.

I want the option but i don't want it to be the default even after i repeatedly switch to the original audio

Re: YouTube No Translation

#193

Post by thrdbndndn »

red_admiral wrote: post #94

Nowadays to use youtube efficiently with ADHD, you practically need all of: (a) uBlock - this one is debatable but deals with the worst distractions especially if you're trying to learn from a video your professor put up and you have an exam to prepare for, (b) unhook - hides most of the "recommendations" that attempt to keep you on the site because you're planning to do the copmprehension questions your professor ga…

Autoplay next can be simply turned off and I've had it off for years.

Re: YouTube No Translation

#194

Post by xdfgh1112 »

qwertox wrote: post #176

Autodubbing is probably the worst feature Google has ever implemented. It's OK if they want to offer it, but at least let me disable it for specific languages. And for those languages which I don't understand, let me choose a default autodubbing language. Because I assume that auto-generated translations from French to English will be far better than those from French to German or Spanish. Also, the voices they use s…

My friend thought a video was ai generated because it was translated to 17 languages. But the voices were natural, fit the pace of the video, and had emotion and impulse. They had been paid for.

The YouTube auto translation is not that. It's stilted and awkward, robotic voice with none of the context. It's not ready for release and it does a disservice to any creator that uses it because their vision is not going to be anywhere near correctly delivered.

Re: YouTube No Translation

#195

Post by keraf »

phantomathkg wrote: post #28
rdtsc wrote: post #8

It's surprising how hostile youtube is to multilingual users. Probably all in some attempt to show off their translation capability or to improve the experience for users who may want to access content in a language they don't speak? Or it's just as dumb as this was on some product managers "designed and implemented" line to get promoted? But, surely someone sane there has to realize there is a large number of users…

i18n and l10n are something that I have seen a company done right. It is easy developer to assume: If your IP is coming from country X, you must want the content to be served in language X. No, there are tourist from country Z, long term resident who prefer language A and people from country X want to learn language B. - If your browser Accept-Language say X,Y, then you must want all the content to be served in X. No…

It baffles me that a ton of sites that have been translated into multiple languages still set the language based on IP rather than trying to determine it based on the client settings or defaulting to a set language with an easy way to switch it.

Countless times I landed on websites I use relatively frequently in foreign countries to see them in a language I don't understand, having to rely on my browser's translation functionality to find the language switcher. My operating system + browser are set to English, yet I still get served the one in the language I don't understand.

The worst offenders in my opinion are the ones assuming language based on IP for multi-lingual countries like Switzerland. People living in the French or Italian parts almost always get served the German content. It's bad UX.

Re: YouTube No Translation

#196

Post by franciscop »

matsemann wrote: post #108
phantomathkg wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i18n and l10n are something that I have seen a company done right. It is easy developer to assume: If your IP is coming from country X, you must want the content to be served in language X. No, there are tourist from country Z, long term resident who prefer language A and people from country X want to learn language B. - If your browser Accept-Language say X,Y, then you must want all the content to be served in X. No…

I also have this problem with apps in my native language. I have my phone set to en,no because I prefer the English version over some bad auto-translated crap where some apps try to translate stuff. But then when I download a Norwegian app, then it prefers to use some badly maintained English translation instead, but here I would of course prefer the native version. Can't win.

I live in Japan and am not yet fluent enough, so need to use a VPN to get the Google Search English results, otherwise it's totally unusable. Heck even for programming I pull my hair since I get the translated docs when searching. Just give me the (original) English ones please. I did search in English have Google set to English, but still get the Japanese ones even for those that have English resources.

Re: YouTube No Translation

#197

Post by lloeki »

qwertox wrote: post #176

Autodubbing is probably the worst feature Google has ever implemented. It's OK if they want to offer it, but at least let me disable it for specific languages. And for those languages which I don't understand, let me choose a default autodubbing language. Because I assume that auto-generated translations from French to English will be far better than those from French to German or Spanish. Also, the voices they use s…

> at least let me disable it for specific languages.

At the very least make use of https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Reference/...

... instead of relying on whatever stupid magic that places me in Germany when I live 5km from the border.

It can't be geoip because that IP is from a French ISP and has been in consistent use at this location for the past 5 years.

(but yeah even then it is horrible)

Re: YouTube No Translation

#198

Post by xdfgh1112 »

klausa wrote: post #139
matsemann wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also have this problem with apps in my native language. I have my phone set to en,no because I prefer the English version over some bad auto-translated crap where some apps try to translate stuff. But then when I download a Norwegian app, then it prefers to use some badly maintained English translation instead, but here I would of course prefer the native version. Can't win.

On iOS, this is something you can can control on a per-app basis from the (system) Settings.app.

Really useful for Google maps. I generally prefer English but I want Japanese for google so I get local people's opinion over tourists who think every ramen is the best ramen they've ever tasted. I'm surprised it's not an option actually. Language aside, tourism and actually living somewhere are totally separate and reviews should reflect that.

Re: YouTube No Translation

#199

Post by _bent »

rightbyte wrote: post #187
qwertox wrote: post #176

Autodubbing is probably the worst feature Google has ever implemented. It's OK if they want to offer it, but at least let me disable it for specific languages. And for those languages which I don't understand, let me choose a default autodubbing language. Because I assume that auto-generated translations from French to English will be far better than those from French to German or Spanish. Also, the voices they use s…

It is terrible and took me a while to realize what was happening. I though some videos were generated spam. Reddit does something similar now. It auto translates posts and they show up in Google in my native tongue. Really annoying since when I search in that language I specifically don't want English sites.

The Reddit translations are so insanely terrible. They are so much harder to read the the original English posts. It's like every word has been translated independently

Re: YouTube No Translation

#200

Post by dizhn »

It's embarrassing that something like this is needed. For some reason Youtube has always been weird about languages. They have language and location information, yet they won't let you search by language, will return other languages when you search, won't search by location, won't default to another language in videos and now they are force translating video titles/descriptions and force dubbing videos. Nobody asked for any of this. They have been asked plenty of times to provide options related to languages yet they have not implemented any of it. Super super weird. When did we start to accept such bullshit even in paid products?
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