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The US continues to burn its soft power capital to defend Israel - this guy was only targeted because of his investigations on Israeli war crimes.
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Because any US president is expendable if they don't comply.
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#192This is insane. They aimed his corporate account. Europeans move away from the US even faster now. This guy is literally breaking decades old relationships.
You think Europe would really behave any different?
Israel is the wedge and leverage to eliminating governments of Iran, Pakistan, China and then India and weakening Russia further.
Colonialism hasn't gone anywhere, evidence? Europe fully protects settlers and their ambitions despite what they say publicly. It is a long road but the most realistic one they have.
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There is another problem: EU politicians would immediately use this against each other. For example, the Spanish governments in Barcelona and Madrid constantly do anything they can to sabotage each other. And this is not the only such pair. Hell, the French and German governments, the main force behind the whole EU, still hate each other.
The amount of dilly-dallying on the Israeli question (which is at the heart of the OP issue also) is enough evidence that the EU is a has-been power - they can't even make up their minds, what with France against the Iran strikes, while Germany likes Israel "doing our dirty work". And both are centre-right governments to boot! If the White House is the clownshow in the circus, the EU is the acrobatics act.
France has been okay with iran strikes
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The US continues to burn its soft power capital to defend Israel - this guy was only targeted because of his investigations on Israeli war crimes.
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> because Israel bought Trump
This is a self-defeating and untrue meme.
Most Americans don’t say Israel is very important to them, favourably or not [1]. Historically, Israel was popular in both parties; that has now changed. As a result, being anti-Israel was dumb not because of some APAC [EDIT: AIPAC] conspiracy but because voters generally don’t respond to foreign policy issues (versus kitchen-sink ones) and the voters who would tended to were predominantly pro-Israel. So the safe electoral strategy has been, until maybe the last year, to say something nice about Israel and then move on.
So no, there isn’t some undefeatable (and frankly, steeped in historically-racist characterisations of Jews) shadow government. This is basic electoral incentives. Incentives which are shifting. Because if there is an undefeatable shadow government, there are better things to talk about and focus on.
[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/04/08/how-ameri...
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#195Not surprising that the biggest tech companies are complicit in the biggest war crimes and atrocities of a generation. In the 1940s it was IBM providing holocaust tabulation machines. In the 2020s, it's companies like Microsoft providing the tech infrastructure for AI-assisted targeting and pervasive surveillance in the ongoing Gaza holocaust.
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They aren't even able to count the number of civilians killed by Israel due to all of the hospitals in Gaza being blown up. There is no way to gauge the population (not that that would matter for the definition of genocide anyway). Israel is killing Palestinians as fast as the world will allow.
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Unfortunately, there are enough courts that are very willing to slap any label on any suitably vilified candidate. Pick any president of India; you can probably find a Pakistani court would be willing to convict for "crimes against humanity". And vice versa. Or pick some Iraq-Iran pairings. Or Armenian- Azerbaijani, etc. Allowing external courts to judge presidents is a bad idea. It is a slippery slope even for cases…
We're talking about any random court, however, but the ICC. It does not have a history of "slapping any label on any suitably vilified candidate". Put another way: The US has a history of deciding it is allowed to start actual wars to overthrow the kind of people committing the kind of crimes that gets you targeted by the ICJ. The US just wants its own people to not be subjected to what it has a long history of impos…
To the degree the ICC has precedent, it’s in being powerless over great powers.
I don’t know what the solution is. But an essentially advisory body like the ICC probably isn’t it if the goal is checking the U.S. and its allies, or China and its allies. (Maybe it’s useful for checking Western Europe? Idk.)
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What would motivate them to join the army?
The power that comes with military contract-type money, connections, and influence. That's the kind of situation that gives CEOs lifelong reputations (that they think it's in a good way).
Yup. All of those men will need to be investigated and, if appropriate, tried for corruption.
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I thought I was clear on this, but I guess not: it was entirely appropriate. They lost so thoroughly and the Holocaust was so repulsive that it was arguably necessary . Germany itself was also in such a precarious position that the continued existence of the German State was in jeopardy, and probably the only way it could continue to exist in any form even after being divided was to go through the Nuremberg Trials fi…
Those are reasons it was feasible. It was appropriate for moral reasons, and the same is true of US leaders.
I would have thought calling out the repulsiveness of the Holocaust and the health and wellbeing of a continued German-state would have been the moral justifications, but okay, sure.
> and the same is true of US leaders.
The thing is, there isn’t enough in the way of shared morality between nations of the world to make this claim. From our perspective, the POTUS is imbued with the power to deal with foreign nations, and this includes both diplomatic and war functions, and to do so in a way that is beneficial to America. That’s what he is elected for, so imposing the ICC’s international justice on our elected leaders is in essence the same as trying to impose a foreign justice on America. We have our own laws, and govern our military with our own code of justice passed by our Congress, therefore we cannot abide by the ICC’s infringement on our sovereignty, nor will we tolerate a threat from it against our elected leaders.
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If they're planning to do something that might get them indicted for crimes against humanity, then they are not reasonable candidates.
Unfortunately, there are enough courts that are very willing to slap any label on any suitably vilified candidate. Pick any president of India; you can probably find a Pakistani court would be willing to convict for "crimes against humanity". And vice versa. Or pick some Iraq-Iran pairings. Or Armenian- Azerbaijani, etc. Allowing external courts to judge presidents is a bad idea. It is a slippery slope even for cases…
There is absolutely zero evidence that you can point to that credibly suggests this court would or has done anything like you’re describing.
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For example: selective enforcement, for example states vs terrorists. Even Russia became a victim of that, which I'll point out in hopes of avoiding discussion on Israel. Russia, of course commits human rights abuses in Ukraine. But Daesh committed serious human rights abuses against Russia [1] [2], as did a number of other islamist, nationalist and even a socialist group. Not one iota of attention of the court ever…
The ICC takes actions against people. It very specifically does not have jurisdiction over conflicts between states . The ICJ pursues cases against states. > Not one iota of attention of the court ever went to that. The ICC only has jurisdiction over the territories and nationals of the State Parties to the Rome Statute. In the case of Israel, the actions are taken on the basis of alleged crimes in Palestinian territ…
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