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Washington Post's Privacy Tip: Stop Using Chrome, Delete Meta Apps (and Yandex)

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Re: Washington Post's Privacy Tip: Stop Using Chrome, Delete Meta Apps (and Yandex)

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Post by esseph »

p0w3n3d wrote: post #189
Legend2440 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems weird. I'm in Chrome right now and I can right-click on PDFs and click save as.

I mean once you get into a pdf. Sometimes web page opens it instead of allowing download. The built-in pdf browser of chrome has no option to save it locally on android phone. I have not been not precise in explaining, because I find Google and Android constantly reducing my ownership of my own phone and that's another brick in the wall here

Click on the three dots top right.

There is now a bar of 5 icons at the top. The middle icon, "download", saves the PDF.

Edit: Long-pressing each icon will show you small pop-up text for the icon/action.

Re: Washington Post's Privacy Tip: Stop Using Chrome, Delete Meta Apps (and Yandex)

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Post by gsky »

capyba wrote: post #162

I don’t know anyone that works at Meta, so I’m hoping that someone here could answer this for me- What makes employees there feel good (or at least okay) about doing stuff like this? You're spying on people, no? Surveilling ordinary people, not enemy combatants or foreign militaries? Perhaps a friend of a friend or even a family member? This kind of thing is so creepy and disturbing to me, not that it’s anything new…

Some engineers do anything for money. Check out teamblind.com to know the evil side of engineers

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Post by ReptileMan »

capyba wrote: post #162

I don’t know anyone that works at Meta, so I’m hoping that someone here could answer this for me- What makes employees there feel good (or at least okay) about doing stuff like this? You're spying on people, no? Surveilling ordinary people, not enemy combatants or foreign militaries? Perhaps a friend of a friend or even a family member? This kind of thing is so creepy and disturbing to me, not that it’s anything new…

It should be noted that no ethically -trained software engineer would ever consent to write a DestroyBaghdad procedure. Basic professional ethics would instead require him to write a DestroyCity procedure, to which Baghdad could be given as a parameter.

Re: Washington Post's Privacy Tip: Stop Using Chrome, Delete Meta Apps (and Yandex)

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Post by gsky »

godelski wrote: post #178
kb_dev wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In principle, I think most people believe their morals would prevent them from working at a company like Meta. On the flip side, how much are morals worth if you have the opportunity to be financially free? There's also the opportunity to work on interesting problems. Anecdotally, of course, I know a Meta engineer at the L7 level (generally staff engineer in these large tech companies). He makes over seven figures a…

Are the people working on the interesting problems doing most of the spying? I'm sure there's overlap like people working on AR scraping images of people's homes to build better models but they also do a ton of research where they use open datasets. I'm curious what this distribution is. I'm also curious what the answer is for just average programmers. Meta has like 70k employees. Surely a lot of them aren't doing in…

Nazis too worked on lot of interesting problems.

Re: Washington Post's Privacy Tip: Stop Using Chrome, Delete Meta Apps (and Yandex)

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Post by palmfacehn »

capyba wrote: post #162

I don’t know anyone that works at Meta, so I’m hoping that someone here could answer this for me- What makes employees there feel good (or at least okay) about doing stuff like this? You're spying on people, no? Surveilling ordinary people, not enemy combatants or foreign militaries? Perhaps a friend of a friend or even a family member? This kind of thing is so creepy and disturbing to me, not that it’s anything new…

Generally employees put the responsibility on management. As everyone has a higher up they answer to, no one feels personally responsible. From the top down, the concerns of how things are actually implemented are often too abstract. Combine these dynamics with institutional echochambers and group-think.

Employees just want to make it to the weekend. Execs want to hit their targets. Sales dept. needs their bonuses. The board wants to pump valuations.

Re: Washington Post's Privacy Tip: Stop Using Chrome, Delete Meta Apps (and Yandex)

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Post by rixed »

tdiff wrote: post #103
thadk wrote: post #93

Anyone have tips on how to avoid having the WhatsApp app on your phone?

Use telegram

The app you have to pay premium to prevent them from selling your details to advertisers and scammers? Ha yes I totally trust them.

Re: Washington Post's Privacy Tip: Stop Using Chrome, Delete Meta Apps (and Yandex)

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Post by flomo »

righthand wrote: post #180
boomboomsubban wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MSN is all rehosted articles I believe. Several times I've searched major paper headlines to read the full story on MSN. No idea what kind of deal these places have with Microsoft.

MSN used to be this special variation of Internet Explorer on Windows during the early era of the internet. My grandmother used it and the rebranded browser was packaged with other software products (if I recall correctly, I could be conflating it with preinstalled trash back in the day). It had a different color theme and allowed you to log into your hotmail account. I think at one point it became an IE addon. I rem…

Well the truth is Microsoft branding is totally incoherent, and MSN has been anything and everything MS thought they could put their name on. Like there is a cable network called MSNBC which now has nothing to do with either MS or NBC.

Originally, like Bill Gates wrote about it in a book completely ignoring web browsers, MSN was a proprietary Windows client like AOL. Later on it became a 'web portal' like Yahoo. Then a 'content' site. At one point, it was even a social media site. Somehow, when my parents got cable internet, they were funneled into a @MSN.com account. It had this fake "dialer" which pretended it was "connecting", even though the internet was always on.

For many years since, MSN has just been the tabloid news to remind you that Microsoft shit is low class.

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Post by cherryteastain »

lurking_swe wrote: post #177
whstl wrote: post #174

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The sad reality is that this behavior gets normalized in the name of making money. For employees it gets normalized at the first signal that your livelihood might be affected if you don't comply. As someone who's privacy conscious, it's an uphill battle to convince co-workers to actually follow laws instead of trying to find loopholes. I've worked at places who collect every possible data point and distributes it wil…

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The fact that most people don't care about the second order implications of their work on a daily basis makes your point irrelevant.
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