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Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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post #171

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I've heard enough of this anti-american talk, and it sure smells like propaganda. The huge majority of europeans have nothing against the american people. Please, do not propagate these claims.

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Do you really need a source that most people don't hate other people?

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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I live in Spain and love LaLiga games, but I dislike the executives. There's no straightforward way to stream all matches. The Cloudflare/piracy issue is the lack of clear streaming options. Even with DAZN, Movistar Plus, and TVBar, none offer complete coverage.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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And then the Spanish high sea robbers will just find other routes while the regular people will keep wondering why their bank doesn't work.

This is literally the case. Pirated streams keep working, while a good chunk of the internet is rendered inoperative during weekends.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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post #162

Many will disagree here, but I really respect Cloudflare fight against government-enabled censorship and abuse of power by anti-piracy whatever. Yes, sometimes CloudFlare used for some actually bad stuff, but same can be said for any cloud service. Having major internet infrastructure provider react to every whim of every single government in the world is not a good idea.

They aren't really fighting against censorship and especially anti-piracy censorship. If they were, they'd refuse to take down sites. Instead they've a streamlined process for just that purpose, and are only fighting because they have been censored, affecting their bottom line.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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This is just barking up the wrong tree and it applies to everything that people use. The root issue here is that La Liga is able to get a court to shut down a web host. It's shouldn't be anyone's problem but La Liga's that people pirate their stream, but a court let them make it everyone's problem. And there are any number of dumb things the court could have let them do, and turning CF into a utility company that can…

> This is just barking up the wrong tree and it applies to everything that people use. You're missing the part where it's a single company , not just "the entire anti-DDoS infrastructure", that's being talked about here. It would be perfectly possible (no idea how practical offhand) to have an entire ecosystem of competing CDNs all doing the same thing that Cloudflare does, rather than just Cloudflare making those de…

There is an ecosystem of competing CDNs. Blocking any one CDN necessarily impacts all the sites hosted on that CDN. This is a function of being a webhost with multiple customers not being Cloudflare specifically.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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post #171

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Do you really need a source that most people don't hate other people?

America the land-mass and US citizens, of course people don't hate us.

America the political entity represented on the world stage by our government, oh yeah people are pissed.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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post #162

Many will disagree here, but I really respect Cloudflare fight against government-enabled censorship and abuse of power by anti-piracy whatever. Yes, sometimes CloudFlare used for some actually bad stuff, but same can be said for any cloud service. Having major internet infrastructure provider react to every whim of every single government in the world is not a good idea.

They aren't really fighting against censorship and especially anti-piracy censorship. If they were, they'd refuse to take down sites. Instead they've a streamlined process for just that purpose, and are only fighting because they have been censored, affecting their bottom line.

Might be something have changed recently, but CloudFlare is kind a infamous for not taking down some questionable services. At the same time companies like Apple and Microsoft still continue to censor stuff on requests from Russia where they supposedly not operate.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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post #103
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sounds like centralising most of the the internet behind a single easy target (Cloudflare) is a bad idea

I don't entirely disagree, but at the same time, La Liga shouldn't have this much power to shut down large swaths of the internet because of a handful of piracy sites, that probably only have a minimal impact on their income anyway. Also, CDNs have inherent economies of scale and network effects, so it is natural that there would be just a few at the top.

Only it's not La Liga censoring, it's a court order as far as I can understand from the TF article. Should the judicial system of a country have the power to shut down large swaths of the Internet after presumably due process and in accordance with the law? IMO yes.

Now, the question really turns out to be "Is a law stating that large swaths of the Internet must be censored to stop a handful of piracy sites just?"

No. It isn't.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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post #189

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You seen to be implying that Cloudflare has been abusing this position of power, but then listing things it allows? Porn, of consenting adults, is actually a great example of business Cloudflare's right to take on. You may not care for it, but legal/ethical pornography is a matter only of taste. We'd be far worse off if Cloudflare was blocking content based off of personal preference.

Didn't they kick off far right websites like stormfront? They still block from personal preference it's just preferences you agree with.

(in)famously they refused to do that until ordered to by law enforcement.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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post #158
post #81

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Say I want to watch some specific movie right now. How would you go about accomplishing this?

it's a serious question. I've tried hoarding subscriptions. It doesn't work.

I have the subscriptions and it works for me. I do resent on principle needing so many different services, but once set up, I haven't hit a film that wasn't covered.

My subscriptions: Hulu (with a bunch of premium channels), Prime Video (with MGM, Acorn and BritBox), Netflix, Max, Peacock, Apple TV, Criterion Collection, Fubo, ESPN+

In the off chance something is not available on one of the above (again, really hasn't happened), it is usually on PPV via either Prime Video or Play for 4.99.

To the point of piracy -- I don't like the poor UX argument, personally. But, if you're struggling to make ends meet and the above subscriptions are just unaffordable (which they are for many), I'm not going to think any less of anyone for perusing some torrents. The world is hard and entertainment can really help people through the bullshit. The very last thing people need when struggling is to be deprived of their escape.

It's a little harder to justify not paying for any reason other than inability to pay.

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